Experienced bros and Vets read carefully I need help with some issues,kinda complicated.

[tempest2003]

blood tests will come back all fucked up so unless you have a doctor whom you feel comfortable revealing EVERYTHING to, they are most likley going to recomend more blood tests which can be very costly, I would still get blood test done though if I were you, i agree, this is very important, but i feel everything i recomended is just as important. I think it is probably just mental, but also some physical burnout, your body is used to a high level of AAS, if you take that away your body is missing a lot, but you obviously cant stay on forever if you want to live to 40 or 50 and beyond. thats why i recomend doing everything that is naturaly good for your body first, ie: swimming (cardio) continue lifting (just to maintain) and eat a healthy, organic/high protein diet, make sure your getting your fruits/veggies as well that are essential to a healthy body, this will Help but not fix instantly bringing blood levels to correct values. just my .02, you cannot go wrong with what ive suggested, think about it, its natural, its what every human body needs to be healthy.

 

[timtim]

Not one of you so called experts have given the right advice here.....it could be mental burn out...it very well could physiological as well.....

who here called himself an expert? people are giving their opinions on maybe a course of action that would fit the thread poster's goals. sort of like you except no one has been on a soap box preaching about how the other's before them are wrong.

Because after all the shit wears off he'll have the same problem..possibly worse....could be depression has set in also.....more shit different shit is still...SHIT ADVICE....

i actually said that running more gear may not be the best idea as he will still have to come off eventually.


to the thread poster:
you eventually have to clean everything out to find the root issues. if your psyche is now off and you feel mentally that something is different, then something is. your hormones are all jacked up and need to be get put in order. cycling more will only make the problem worse. you have created an imbalance that is now showing itself in mental discomfort. get things straight before you keep cycling. i have had cycle induced depression from a poor pct and deca and it was unbelievable how long it took to mentally recover - the mental aspect also destroys libido for the same amount of time. i actually stayed away from gear for 2 full years to make sure i was both physically and mentally prepared to go again.

 

[krishna]

O.K...its very simple....get your test, free test and prolactin...Its as obvious as the pimple on my back...

Stop listening to people suggesting aifm and proviron and all that fucking bullshit.....

Get some blood work done...ASAP...I went thru the same thing your going threw...Get your sugar checked as well...

If you feel test is something you want to do then stick with an HRT dose..around 250 e/w....you shouldnt need any anti's.....

Not one of you so called experts have given the right advice here.....it could be mental burn out...it very well could physiological as well.....

Because after all the shit wears off he'll have the same problem..possibly worse....could be depression has set in also.....more shit different shit is still...SHIT ADVICE....

I would totally run an AI and proviron. He hasn't been on HRT, he's been on 600mg a week. His estrogen levels are bound to be high and contributing to the problem. If he's on 600mg of test, what good is it going to do to get his test levels checked???? The doc is going to know he's on gear. You also recommended to get his prolactin checked. I recommended that he take bromo, which will take care of it. You're advice is the crappy advice bro.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Re: Experienced bros and Vets read carefully I need help with some issues,kinda compl

Please be a little more specific Macro bro.As far as AI what should I use and also what is a dopaminergic and can I find that over the counter?

AIFM (AF) or aromasin. almost never reccomend dex, reccomend letro when strongest E suppression needed..

dopaminergics OTC
tyramine (AF)
l-dopa extract (mucuna pruriens)


grey market
bromocriptine (strong)
cabergoline (expensive , effectiveness varies- though its libido enhancement is its primary sell point)
selegiline (MAO-i-b) keeps natural dopamine high and stops harmful dopamine metabolites from be synthesized (highly reccomend- especially for long term use)

 

[OMEGA]

consider coming down and using 300 mgs of test a week

600 is a bit high an there may be excess estrogen,

I say 300 a week cause the use of Ai's may also make your situtation worse at the 600 level

at 300 you will be on the high end of a cruising level yet not high enough to have estro issues ( genrally speaking)

 

[macrophage69alpha]

actually thats completely innaccurate, aromatase issues with 300mg are going to be the same, if not worse because of T/E ratio issues, as with 600mg.

 

[OMEGA]

actually GymRat consider 250 a week

you will level out in time

good luck

 

[Ulter]

low dose test has MORE chance of having high E to T ratio (since aromatase enzyme is a rate limiting factor)

Omega you need to stop giving advice on things you don't understand.

 

[OMEGA]

GymRat after you come down to 250 and you level out

consider added low adrogenic compounds to fill in the void

worked very well with "a friend" with simlar issues......

take care and pm me anytime

 

[tempest2003]

this is deffinently an unhealthy situation, i personaly would evaluate my health and then consider if this was the lifestyle i wanted to persue knowing i am cutting my life span with each day i continue