Experienced advice needed after talking to Dr.

[returnofthdragon]

Well I'm living proof that (at least for me) Test E at 500mgs/wk doesn't mess up my cholesterol levels. If you can check my post history I posted some lab results from a Life insurance exam I took when I was quite a bit into my 500mg/wk cycle (the post was like maybe two weeks ago?). Anyway my cholesterol and triglyceride levels were really good. It's possible that they are even better when I'm not on AAS, but I don't have a test from pre-cycle to confirm/deny that.

My diet is spot fucking on though and besides some supplements I eat less than 10g of dietary fat everyday which might contribute a bit to my low cholesterol/triglyceride levels.

Do you take an SERMs or Anti-e's during your cycle?

Really my cholesterol isn't high at all, it's just the low hdl they don't like. The statins are to lower the ldl and improve my ratio. Several men in my family have poor hdl. I first noticed it during college when I had nothing better to do than spend hours a day at the gym and like you ate almost nothing that contained fat or sugar and very little simple carbs. I'm stuck with poor hdl. I just don't want to set off any alarms when I get checked again in two months, or make my cholesterol take a turn for the worse.

 

[stevesmi]

I appreciate the attempt at help, but appear grossly uneducated. I do eat clean. I'm not fat. No one in my family is fat. I when I'm out of shape I look like your pic. I've done much better without aas. Try to educate yourself a bit before giving advice. You should google cholesterol and genetics and try to learn something. Here's just a little of what you can find in under 30 seconds.

he genetics of familial hypercholesterolaemia
Cholesterol is delivered to cells via the bloodstream. Normally, the tiny particles of LDL cholesterol attach to ‘receptor’ sites on the targeted cells and are then absorbed. A gene on chromosome 19, called the LDLR gene, controls the production of these receptors. Familial hypercholesterolaemia is due to a mutation of the LDLR gene that changes the way the receptors develop, either in number or structure. This means that LDL cholesterol is not well absorbed into cells, and remains circulating in the blood. High blood cholesterol is a risk factor in coronary artery disease, because it sticks to the artery walls, produces fatty plaques and narrows the diameter of the arteries (atherosclerosis).

Pattern of inheritance
Familial hypercholesterolaemia is an autosomal dominant disorder. In the great majority of cases, the gene is inherited from just one parent; very rarely, it is inherited from both.

One parent



If one parent has one mutated gene and one normal gene in the pair, each child of this parent has a 50 per cent chance of inheriting the mutated gene. The risk of developing early coronary artery disease depends on the gender of the child:

• Around 50 per cent of males who inherit the genetic mutation from this parent will develop coronary artery disease before the age of 50 years.
• All of the affected male children of this parent will develop heart disease by the age of 70 years.
• About 85 per cent of affected male children of this parent will have a heart attack before the age of 60 years.
• Around 12 per cent of females who inherit the genetic mutation from this parent will develop coronary artery disease before the age of 50 years, and 74 per cent by the age of 70 years.

put up a pic bro. and if the whole genetics thing is true then you probably are better served sticking to what you are doing now and not doing steroids cause genetically its not a good idea for you. in all seriousness you are making a moutain out of a molehill if your top line cholesterol is okay i wouldn't worry about hdl but keep it monitored, steroids will hurt your hdl numbers but that is how it goes.

personally i think the genetics thing is a bunch of bullshit and overblown, yes there is a genetic element but its not so huge that it cant be overcome. doctors always want to blame genetics cause they are taught that in med school, they aren't taught diet and exercise.

for example i know a moron with bladder cancer that smokes 4 packs a day and drinks 3 packs of beer per day and blames his cancer on genetics. his doctors wont tell him to quit smoking or lay off the beer, thats why our medical system is a joke in the US. they want to blame everything on genetics. I am a testament to crippling the genetics myth, i could just let myself go and get diabetes, cholesterol, etc etc. and then be like that guy and blame it all on genetics too. but i choose not to and take personal responsibility for my body.

again those stats dont take into consideration what i wrote before. bad habits by parents turn into bad habits by kids. parents that eat trash, feed their own kids trash as well. a kid that watches daddy beat mommy will probably grow up and beat his future gf/wife as well. i'm sure doctors will blame spousal abuse on genetics also.

the bottom line is DO NOT LET this genetic thing get into your head. 'oh my daddy is small so i can never lift big'.. get that bs out of your head and just lift like there is no tomorow.

 

[skinsfan]

Do you take an SERMs or Anti-e's during your cycle?

Really my cholesterol isn't high at all, it's just the low hdl they don't like. The statins are to lower the ldl and improve my ratio. Several men in my family have poor hdl. I first noticed it during college when I had nothing better to do than spend hours a day at the gym and like you ate almost nothing that contained fat or sugar and very little simple carbs. I'm stuck with poor hdl. I just don't want to set off any alarms when I get checked again in two months, or make my cholesterol take a turn for the worse.

I always take liquidex when I'm on cycle. I also take wheat grass powder, some omega oils, green tea extract, and 10grams of CLA daily.