Everyone! I am so excited!

[musclemom]

I wouldn't care if they banned the slaughtering of cows. This is just the first step. Go watch the videos... and if they banned chicken/turkey, I'd be happy because then I'd have to become a vegetarian.. it's hard but I want to do it (I eat chicken/turkey but not often).

Hey what do you think about the seat belt laws, property laws, and all the other laws that have been passed for idiots who cannot do things for themselves and be moral about certain thing? This culture of control? Geeze.. this is one reason I am embarassed to be human sometimes.. because people think 'Just because they allow this, means they should allow EVERYTHING." Do you see what these animals go through? My God...

Should we eat whale and dolphin, too? Dog and cat? Many people would say what you're saying...

http://www.goveg.com/feat/foie/

I don't have the time, energy or inclination to plow through 180+ posts but I have to say, how nice for you that you have the choice. I was a lacto-ovo vegetarian for 11 years before I got sick and now I'm celiac and intolerant of soy. What should I eat? I guess a bullet

That being said, while the treatment of the geese is cruel, so is the treatment of ALL conventional feedlot animals. Battery chickens are debeaked and fed arsenic to keep their parasites down, cattle live their lives standing knee deep in boggy, shitty feedlots, milk cows that are nothing more than glorified mile fountains, never get to spend a moment with their calves, and don't leave their stalls except to go to the slaughter house, pigs that go insane from being cooped up, etc.

But why stop there? What about puppy, kitten and ferret mills? Even better, what of the lot of the kittens and puppies who are born exclusively for the purpose of being euthanized so biology students have something to dissect? What about the rats, mice, fish and rabbits that are bred exclusively to be fed, alive, to reptiles? What about animals that are still used in medical and cosmetic testing?

If you wear leather, bath, use any kind of personal beauty aid, and eat ANY kind of meat, fish included, you contribute, to tell yourself otherwise is just lying to yourself. If you don't shop 100% organic, then the plants you're eating were probably fertilized with deitrus of some parts of dead animals, if you have a carnivorous pet, then you contribute when you feed it.

And if you're going to go on about how horrible all that is, and how it should be eliminated, what about the people who make their livelihood by providing these animals for these industries? What if you're protests are preventing THEIR children from getting needed medical or dental care or a better education?

 

[MichaelScott]

if i sit and really think about where all the meat i eat actually comes from and the processes that go into producing it, like the chicken cages and the images of the slaughterhouse, it disgusts me, but i still eat the meat b/c i like to thank you, where's all the poon-tang..out

 

[pintoca]

I'm sure it's still being researched, but as things are now, we are classified as omnivores.

Defend your beliefs with everything you have, by all means, but when you take pot shots you are defeating yourself and any chance of someone taking you seriously is shot because you start sounding like a stereotypical holier than thou. Making comments like "Don't make me take this down to an 8th grade level" is....taking things to an 8th grade level. And I'm not talking about intelligence.

I'm not sure what you expected posting this here, to be honest. I'm not justifying the response but I don't think you are going to find too many vegetarian body builders.

 

[pintoca]

I don't have the time, energy or inclination to plow through 180+ posts but I have to say, how nice for you that you have the choice. I was a lacto-ovo vegetarian for 11 years before I got sick and now I'm celiac and intolerant of soy. What should I eat? I guess a bullet

That being said, while the treatment of the geese is cruel, so is the treatment of ALL conventional feedlot animals. Battery chickens are debeaked and fed arsenic to keep their parasites down, cattle live their lives standing knee deep in boggy, shitty feedlots, milk cows that are nothing more than glorified mile fountains, never get to spend a moment with their calves, and don't leave their stalls except to go to the slaughter house, pigs that go insane from being cooped up, etc.

But why stop there? What about puppy, kitten and ferret mills? Even better, what of the lot of the kittens and puppies who are born exclusively for the purpose of being euthanized so biology students have something to dissect? What about the rats, mice, fish and rabbits that are bred exclusively to be fed, alive, to reptiles? What about animals that are still used in medical and cosmetic testing?

If you wear leather, bath, use any kind of personal beauty aid, and eat ANY kind of meat, fish included, you contribute, to tell yourself otherwise is just lying to yourself. If you don't shop 100% organic, then the plants you're eating were probably fertilized with deitrus of some parts of dead animals, if you have a carnivorous pet, then you contribute when you feed it.

And if you're going to go on about how horrible all that is, and how it should be eliminated, what about the people who make their livelihood by providing these animals for these industries? What if you're protests are preventing THEIR children from getting needed medical or dental care or a better education?

I couldn't have said this better. But only cause I'm and my english is lacking.

buttsechs?

 

[jh1]

I don't have the time, energy or inclination to plow through 180+ posts but I have to say, how nice for you that you have the choice. I was a lacto-ovo vegetarian for 11 years before I got sick and now I'm celiac and intolerant of soy. What should I eat? I guess a bullet

That being said, while the treatment of the geese is cruel, so is the treatment of ALL conventional feedlot animals. Battery chickens are debeaked and fed arsenic to keep their parasites down, cattle live their lives standing knee deep in boggy, shitty feedlots, milk cows that are nothing more than glorified mile fountains, never get to spend a moment with their calves, and don't leave their stalls except to go to the slaughter house, pigs that go insane from being cooped up, etc.

But why stop there? What about puppy, kitten and ferret mills? Even better, what of the lot of the kittens and puppies who are born exclusively for the purpose of being euthanized so biology students have something to dissect? What about the rats, mice, fish and rabbits that are bred exclusively to be fed, alive, to reptiles? What about animals that are still used in medical and cosmetic testing?

If you wear leather, bath, use any kind of personal beauty aid, and eat ANY kind of meat, fish included, you contribute, to tell yourself otherwise is just lying to yourself. If you don't shop 100% organic, then the plants you're eating were probably fertilized with deitrus of some parts of dead animals, if you have a carnivorous pet, then you contribute when you feed it.

And if you're going to go on about how horrible all that is, and how it should be eliminated, what about the people who make their livelihood by providing these animals for these industries? What if you're protests are preventing THEIR children from getting needed medical or dental care or a better education?

That's an indepth view into how it all works, and also true.

I think people, naturally have an emotional response to this type of stuff.

The thing to keep in mind is that you can't act on your emotions, you have to take a step back and look at things.

Nature is horrific as well - who can watch a Zebra be caught and drug under by an aligator without wincing? Who's heard a rabbit squeal when a coyote catches him? That shit is TERRIBLE, but it's nature and it's life.

On the other hand there are the horrors of our world outside of this. 15 millions children starving, factories overseas choc'd full of de'facto slave like labor all to make our clothes, TV's, etc.

 

[stilleto]

that was most eggcellently written


I'm sorry IP - like I said I appreciate when people take stand for what they believe in - but I can't figure out how you always place yourself in the foreground to be in the directly line of fire for absolute ridicule here.

agreed.
starting a thread entitled "EVERYONE!" and then insulting "EVERYONE!" who doesn't agree with protesting seems like a huge cry for more negative attention. i don't get it.

maybe its the "don't hate me, i'm a really good person" thing.

 

[pintoca]

I don't have the time, energy or inclination to plow through 180+ posts but I have to say, how nice for you that you have the choice. I was a lacto-ovo vegetarian for 11 years before I got sick and now I'm celiac and intolerant of soy. What should I eat? I guess a bullet

That being said, while the treatment of the geese is cruel, so is the treatment of ALL conventional feedlot animals. Battery chickens are debeaked and fed arsenic to keep their parasites down, cattle live their lives standing knee deep in boggy, shitty feedlots, milk cows that are nothing more than glorified mile fountains, never get to spend a moment with their calves, and don't leave their stalls except to go to the slaughter house, pigs that go insane from being cooped up, etc.

But why stop there? What about puppy, kitten and ferret mills? Even better, what of the lot of the kittens and puppies who are born exclusively for the purpose of being euthanized so biology students have something to dissect? What about the rats, mice, fish and rabbits that are bred exclusively to be fed, alive, to reptiles? What about animals that are still used in medical and cosmetic testing?

If you wear leather, bath, use any kind of personal beauty aid, and eat ANY kind of meat, fish included, you contribute, to tell yourself otherwise is just lying to yourself. If you don't shop 100% organic, then the plants you're eating were probably fertilized with deitrus of some parts of dead animals, if you have a carnivorous pet, then you contribute when you feed it.

And if you're going to go on about how horrible all that is, and how it should be eliminated, what about the people who make their livelihood by providing these animals for these industries? What if you're protests are preventing THEIR children from getting needed medical or dental care or a better education?

mom, you are wasting your time. We all know that only cute animals (or those clever enough to schedule their protests according to MY memememe schedule) are worth fighting for

This bad boy here is certainly out of luck

 

[Turd Ferguson]

OH MY GOD!


I love Foie Gras.

That's some good shits right there.

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you mean brownswigger? same thing ehhhh. pate is pate..

 

[pintoca]

agreed.
starting a thread entitled "EVERYONE!" and then insulting "EVERYONE!" who doesn't agree with protesting seems like a huge cry for more negative attention. i don't get it.

maybe its the "don't hate me, i'm a really good person" thing.

you are wrong

it's simpler than that

 

[stilleto]

you are wrong

it's simpler than that

remember sta**ish? she used to go on long, insulting tirades, then end it with "I have to go save a dolphin now. i can't be bothered with YOU!"