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stilleto said:
btw, at the same time that i'm basically arguing with most of the forum about how i did not DEVALUE my self by lowering my prices to something more reasonable, I also had a post in their equivalent to a chat forum. I said that I was invited to my bosses house, where she's hosting a party for the heads of all the divisions world wide, including the owner here. and me.

So i had asked what they suggested I bring and I said that i'd most likely bring a bottle of wine and... maybe a small handmade dish or something. half the people there said it would be rude of me to bring something.
wtf? rude to bring a hostess gift? a bottle of wine is rude?? our US salesman is bringing 2 dozen lobsters from MA... why is THAT not rude, but me bringing wine is?

god i hate these people.


They must be Canadians
 
blueta2 said:
They must be Canadians


LOL!!!
based on their ability to reason and lack of common sense... yeah. they probably are.



:heart:
 
AAP said:
Sounds like deep down, they just ain't selling shit.

lmao. awesome, perhaps true.

it's too bad the approval process is a pain. i just thought of a good approach, picking up from my previous post...

if i could go there, not as an artist, but as someone interested in glass work and purchasing some shi'at, then i would request a special series of sex toys. all hand-crafted to precision. finely-blown, pun intended. using this as an 'in', i'd then start dropping little gems here and there, relating to what i want made and what i want it for (this is best part). absurd, outrageous, disgusting, etc. and yet, not over-the-top, because you want to maintain the appearance of legitimacy for a while - go under their radar.

ex:

beginning:

"i don't know if you get many of these requests, and i'm embarrassed to ask this, but do any of the artists here make items of a personal/intimate nature?"

end:

"ok, so the dildo should have a primary head for jabbing some nasty bitch's piss-laden cunt. however, it should also have a second hand for inserting into her dirty asshole. this secondary head should have a special 'tickle bump' for stimulating her anal sphincter, and it should also have special grooves to funnel any liquified feces across the body of the glass shaft and out onto the 300-count egyptian cotton sheets. on the side of the primary shaft, i'd like the letters H I V engraved. i'd call this piee the Shockette, aka Shit Rocket. can anyone help me with my glass dreams? i'll pay good money, but i only have dinars."
 
Msg boards where there are a majority of woman usually means "nut cases"!
I am on a support group for two health issues and many (if not all) of these woman are morbidly obese. These woman attacked me when I told them that obesity is an illness (like any addiction) and that only a small majority of obesity is caused by actual physical ailments and the other portion caused by lack of exercise and too much food. You would have thought I killed their families. They totally went off on me!
Many said "I am big boned" another said "I used toothpaste for years and the chemicals in the toothpaste made me fat"

G, maybe we're just crazy and they are sane?!
 
blueta2 said:
Msg boards where there are a majority of woman usually means "nut cases"!
I am on a support group for two health issues and many (if not all) of these woman are morbidly obese. These woman attacked me when I told them that obesity is an illness (like any addiction) and that only a small majority of obesity is caused by actual physical ailments and the other portion caused by lack of exercise and too much food. You would have thought I killed their families. They totally went off on me!
Many said "I am big boned" another said "I used toothpaste for years and the chemicals in the toothpaste made me fat"

G, maybe we're just crazy and they are sane?!


wait so i should stop brushing my teeth? :worried:
 
jackangel said:
lmao. awesome, perhaps true.

it's too bad the approval process is a pain. i just thought of a good approach, picking up from my previous post...

if i could go there, not as an artist, but as someone interested in glass work and purchasing some shi'at, then i would request a special series of sex toys. all hand-crafted to precision. finely-blown, pun intended. using this as an 'in', i'd then start dropping little gems here and there, relating to what i want made and what i want it for (this is best part). absurd, outrageous, disgusting, etc. and yet, not over-the-top, because you want to maintain the appearance of legitimacy for a while - go under their radar.

ex:

beginning:

"i don't know if you get many of these requests, and i'm embarrassed to ask this, but do any of the artists here make items of a personal/intimate nature?"

end:

"ok, so the dildo should have a primary head for jabbing some nasty bitch's piss-laden cunt. however, it should also have a second hand for inserting into her dirty asshole. this secondary head should have a special 'tickle bump' for stimulating her anal sphincter, and it should also have special grooves to funnel any liquified feces across the body of the glass shaft and out onto the 300-count egyptian cotton sheets. on the side of the primary shaft, i'd like the letters H I V engraved. i'd call this piee the Shockette, aka Shit Rocket. can anyone help me with my glass dreams? i'll pay good money, but i only have dinars."

omg.
i really DO love you.
 
blueta2 said:
Msg boards where there are a majority of woman usually means "nut cases"!
I am on a support group for two health issues and many (if not all) of these woman are morbidly obese. These woman attacked me when I told them that obesity is an illness (like any addiction) and that only a small majority of obesity is caused by actual physical ailments and the other portion caused by lack of exercise and too much food. You would have thought I killed their families. They totally went off on me!
Many said "I am big boned" another said "I used toothpaste for years and the chemicals in the toothpaste made me fat"

G, maybe we're just crazy and they are sane?!


lol... maybe i'm wrong, but it sounds like you were being kind about their obesity and they attacked you anyway? that makes a ton (pun intended) of sense.

the people on the other board i'm on are not all women. maybe half and half. i think the jewerly makers are women but the other artists aren't.
they are just overly sensitive if you ask me. and poor.
 
stilleto said:
lol... maybe i'm wrong, but it sounds like you were being kind about their obesity and they attacked you anyway? that makes a ton (pun intended) of sense.

the people on the other board i'm on are not all women. maybe half and half. i think the jewerly makers are women but the other artists aren't.
they are just overly sensitive if you ask me. and poor.

Yeah I was being kind b/c this place I go is really filled with people who are hurting. I'm soft on that board...I have to be!
They attacked me when I did not pacify them with my "oh I am so sorry you're feeling this way"
I came in and tried to help with actual answers and advice.

Well keep giving them a dose of Stilleto, they will come around!
 
holy crap. i just got totally blasted.

"XXX, here's the deal: You don't know if you made any money ( i DO know i made money. she didn't read that I brought home a few hundred dollars and only spent around $20 for supplies. i can't say to the penny what everything cost, but OBVIOUSLY i made money) because you don't know your costs, therefore you don't know if your prices were reasonable. I didn't say you did the other women an injustice, I said they probably weren't very happy with an amateur undercutting their sales.

As for offending people at lowering your prices, yes, you probably did. Many of the people responding make their living--or a good part of it--selling glass jewelry. They take that business very seriously. If you've been on this board very long you should know that they worry about the glass jewelry market being saturated with cheap goods from emerging market producers and from amateurs who bring down the rest of the market with lower-quality "I just got my kiln and now I want to make money with it" goods. (Check the archives if you don't believe me)

So if you post something that says you contributed to that worry, yeah, you're going to get some offended people. No, you don't raise your prices to $200, especially if, as you admit, your work wasn't worth it. You do some research before entering the market, and figure out what the market wants, what it's willing to pay for it, and how to produce it so you make a profit. I'm not sure why you think "it's my first show" is an excuse for not doing your homework.

According to your other posts, you're in marketing and sales, so you should know that. That's basic marketing 101 stuff, and the rules don't change just because it's glass. If you're serious about having a business, you need to be just as professional as those other guys. If you're not serious, why waste your time bringing down the market just a little bit more?"


i responded and totally blasted the bitch.
 
stilleto said:
and you break their unwritten 'don't ever say THAT' rule and have them jump all over you?

I did.

i'm on an glass artist site and i mentioned that I went to a show on saturday and lowered my prices at the last minute. I CLEARLY stated that my overhead was very little, so lowering my prices didn't hurt me, but i did well in sales and wouldn't have had i not lowered the prices. I also clearly said that my first set of prices was purely a guess, but when i saw the other artists prices (and the quality of their work), i re-thought mine.

well. you'd think i murdered someone.

one woman said I devalued my self.

another basically said that I ruined it for the rest of them (they aren't even all in the US and none are from my area) and someone else said that *I* am what is wrong with artistry today.

fucking idiots.
You're like a Rogue.
 
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