p0ink said:
we are talking about security measures! governments owe no reasoning or explanation to foreign governments when it comes to protecting their country and their people!
How many purges of 'intellectuals' or 'undesirables' or 'agitating elements' have been purportrated in the name of National Security? How agonizingly obvious it is that you skipped your history requirement?
What was Pinochets response to international condemnation of his Death Squads? Or Papa Doc? Or Idi Amin? Or King Fahd? Or the Shah Reza? Or the Soviets? "It's a matter of national security, FUCK OFF!"
where did i ever say i approve of or support the tyranny of government and the mistreatment of its people? if anyone supports that shit is you who are against using military force to depose of the despots responsible for such action.
You support them directly by suggesting 'internal' events are beyond international concern. How in the same thread can you argue against intervention 'its their business' and at the same time suggest that you are for military force to do exactly that? Well? Which is it, Flippy? In case the Holland Tunnel sized holes in your postion aren't obvious to you, try some deep breaths.
and for being such a champion of 'human rights', chef wide, you trash and lampoon the US government when they actually try to do something to improve the lives of people. fucking hypocrite.
Really? Name one time that I did as you claim? I ONLY point out when our motives are so trasparently selfish that it makes me gag. If we are in such a huge hurry to run around the planet and improve the lives of people, where the FUCK is our support in Sudan? How about the largest humanitarian crisis in your short lifetime: Do the names 'Hutu' or 'Tutsi' ring a bell? Where were we then? Oh, I forgot, they're poor and installing a pupet regime there doesn't have a high enough return on the dollar
Don't fall into your usual 'assumption' mode: I don't think we should be in ANY of those places when we have catastrophic problems at home, which you would already know if you actually read my posts rather than just skim for 'attack' points.
We need to concentrate on America, not toss up smokescreens to try and divert attention from our own serious and growing needs.