ER papers from friends liver problem ( jaundice).

[chazk]

hey jason emailed this from his ER visit last week

these are from the firt minutes to 6 hours later after walking into the ER with yellow eyes yellow skin and about ready to fall over fatigued.

thought you guys might like to look and see it wasnt a joke or anything ..

6 pages a quick blood test break down,urine test and doc's admit paper to the hospital...(left out some or it would have been like 12 pages long)


If you ever feel fatigued,lathargic,strange colored poop,weightloss it could be the first sighn of liver problems.then later the obvious yellow eyes and skin

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so besure to get reg blood work and play it safe guys....

I'm going my self friday I have not had blood work in years so i'm curious what mine looks like to

 

[georgie24]

fucking A+ post

EVERYONE READ!

Especially newbies with thier anavar,dbol,winny only stacks

 

[mlong23]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but jaundice doesn't set in within 30 minutes. This would have been over a period of time, whether it was 1 week or 1 month. Hopefully everyone realizes that their skin has a yellow tint. Good that he's safe, I just think that he probably had the symptoms for a little while before acting. If he thought he looked funny did he keep taking what ever he was taking.

 

[Spartacus]

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AST and ALT weren't that high
I've been told when you have liver problems to the extent that you're jaundiced these will be in the thousands
ast of 76 is a little over double normal high...not in the thousands
alt of 151 is a little over triple normal high...again not in the thousands

somethings not right

 

[Spartacus]

bilirubin is off the charts
9.7
normal is .2-1
over 9 times normal
there's your smoking gun

 

[Spartacus]

Many drugs can cause jaundice and/or cholestasis. Some drugs can cause liver inflammation (hepatitis) similar to viral hepatitis. Other drugs can cause inflammation of the bile ducts, resulting in cholestasis and/or jaundice. Drugs also may interfere directly with the chemical processes within the cells of the liver and bile ducts that are responsible for the formation and secretion of bile to the intestine. As a result, the constituents of bile, including bilirubin, are retained in the body. The best example of a drug that causes this latter type of cholestasis and jaundice is estrogen. The primary treatment for jaundice caused by drugs is discontinuation of the drug. Almost always the bilirubin levels will return to normal within a few weeks, though in a few cases it may take several months.


http://www.medicinenet.com/jaundice/page3.htm

 

[chazk]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but jaundice doesn't set in within 30 minutes. This would have been over a period of time, whether it was 1 week or 1 month. Hopefully everyone realizes that their skin has a yellow tint. Good that he's safe, I just think that he probably had the symptoms for a little while before acting. If he thought he looked funny did he keep taking what ever he was taking.

correct he felt tired and weak for about 2 weeks but just assumed he was overtraining,then 1 week before he got real sick and vomited and had the shits but fingured that it was a stomch virus from some bad food or something..then about 4 days before the er visit he had a yellow twinge to his eyes .
then 4 days later after being sick and losing fluid he called me telling me about the yellow eyes i told him it wasnt a stomach virus but to see a doc he refused then after looking him self over and pulling down his eye lids and then eh saw just how yellow he was... he is real tan so he couldnot see the yellow in his skin untill he raised his armpits...

the er papers are some urine and blood work after he was admitted he prob had liver malfucntion two week earlier then jaundice 1 week out from the er
visit...

he stopped all injections and had not been on orals for three weeks ....then went to the ER

 

[Spartacus]

I'm certainly no MD but it appears to me he has a bile duct problem PERHAPS excerbated by too much estrogen
I think his lver itself will be fine when they straighten him out

when they measure liver enzymes they're measure the enzymes that are normally contained within healthy liver cells
if liver cells are being destroyed due to a virus and/orattack bombardment from for example alcohol,aas,or other drugs that are liver "invasive"
then the cells rupture and release these enzymes into the blood
so when they pull a liver panel and look at your enzymes they're getting a picture of how much your liver is being attacked and/or damaged

ast76 and alt151 ain't alarming
you can even get these measure via a very high protein diet alone

 

[Spartacus]

left column figures are the patients
right column figures are ranges for normal
and H or L next to left column figures are flags for high or low readings

 

[chazk]

bilirubin is off the charts
9.7
normal is .2-1
over 9 times normal
there's your smoking gun

correct his liver was alittle high but still with in a somewhat normal level they consider 500+ pretty bad..

so the culprit was bilirum the by product of dead blood cells. his body could not destroy then fast enough and excrete the watse so the bilirum built up in his body and started staining his skin and eye whites....
it was so high they actually accused a strange herditic desiese of killing his redblood cells at first but relized what steroid he was on cuased it..

he just said the to the doctor i'm was on a cycle
the doctor a few days later asked exactly what steroid he has used,,EQ,anavar ,and test the doctor had to look up them in a medical guide as suspected the eq was def the culprit along with anavar
alos to contribute to it his gallbladder was not functioning at 100% some sort of inflamation....

these are just the er papers of whatthe doc thought was wrong not seeing results from the catscan and sonagram yet so as the testing came in the diagnoses changed some..