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equal rights for men
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You get so fired up. But I see why, I've not lived it, but judged from the sidelines while you lived the hell.Beached Whale said:
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like I said, yea you got a raw deal, yea you went through this shit, but does that make you an expert? NO IT DOES NOT!!!!
You do not represent women as a whole, you don't represent women going through custody battles either. You can only speak for yourself and your deal is extremly abnormal! It's fine if you want to relate your own experiance in a civil discussion but everything you say comes across as hostile. You act like your an authority on the issue of family court and you simply are not. How many custody cases have you participated in? Where's your license to practice law? What makes you an expert? The answers are your own, you don't have one, and your not. Bottom line don't come across as a hostile man hater thats backed in a corner and nobody will bother to argue and fight with you over this. Hostility is met with hostility and you my dear bring plenty of it to the table. You know I have no problem with you personally and I respect youI just don't like how you come across sometimes and frankly its kind of depressing bc I know you weren't always like this.
You do not represent women as a whole, you don't represent women going through custody battles either. You can only speak for yourself and your deal is extremly abnormal! It's fine if you want to relate your own experiance in a civil discussion but everything you say comes across as hostile. You act like your an authority on the issue of family court and you simply are not. How many custody cases have you participated in? Where's your license to practice law? What makes you an expert? The answers are your own, you don't have one, and your not. Bottom line don't come across as a hostile man hater thats backed in a corner and nobody will bother to argue and fight with you over this. Hostility is met with hostility and you my dear bring plenty of it to the table. You know I have no problem with you personally and I respect youI just don't like how you come across sometimes and frankly its kind of depressing bc I know you weren't always like this.
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Beached Whale said:
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Not hostile at all. Just because I can argue my case intelligently, this makes me hostile? Think about what you just said.
And I am not only speaking of MY CASE but of the cases of many others on a whole. Yes, I actually read many of the documents that are filed on my behalf and they do site case laws. I also speak with many men that have gone through it and they got the same deal as my ex - meaning - they got 50/50 regardless. When both parents are working someone has to watch the kids. When a court tells the woman you work a 40 hour work week because we will impute that income to you regardless... SOMEONE HAS TO PAY FOR THAT CHILDCARE. In these cases the men earn more money as the women have historically been home with the kids so they are going to pay for the bulk of it.
Now how smart is that?
BOTH PARENTS WORK TWICE AS MUCH TO EARN MORE MONEY TO PAY AN INSTITUTION TO RAISE THEIR CHILDREN SO THAT NEITHER OF THEM CAN SPEND ANY REAL TIME PARENTING.
Even the state recognized that it is better for a woman in my position to work parttime. But now my ex (and many men like him) are going to realize just how dumb their insistance is for the mother to work so many hours rather than for them to pay a little extra support and let her work parttime.
I have yet to hear anyone explain to me how it is that the phrase "equal rights" even came to be within the given context of this arguement. Just what rights is it that men have been given less of that they need more in order for their to be equality?
I will be away so feel free to make all sorts of debasing comments. (If you didnt make any then you need not respond).
Ultercast - thanx for that. I appreciate it.
You hit the nail on the head - too many people have spent far too much time judging from the sidelines and subsequently basing their judgments not on fact, but ridiculous pubescent fiction.
And I am not only speaking of MY CASE but of the cases of many others on a whole. Yes, I actually read many of the documents that are filed on my behalf and they do site case laws. I also speak with many men that have gone through it and they got the same deal as my ex - meaning - they got 50/50 regardless. When both parents are working someone has to watch the kids. When a court tells the woman you work a 40 hour work week because we will impute that income to you regardless... SOMEONE HAS TO PAY FOR THAT CHILDCARE. In these cases the men earn more money as the women have historically been home with the kids so they are going to pay for the bulk of it.
Now how smart is that?
BOTH PARENTS WORK TWICE AS MUCH TO EARN MORE MONEY TO PAY AN INSTITUTION TO RAISE THEIR CHILDREN SO THAT NEITHER OF THEM CAN SPEND ANY REAL TIME PARENTING.
Even the state recognized that it is better for a woman in my position to work parttime. But now my ex (and many men like him) are going to realize just how dumb their insistance is for the mother to work so many hours rather than for them to pay a little extra support and let her work parttime.
I have yet to hear anyone explain to me how it is that the phrase "equal rights" even came to be within the given context of this arguement. Just what rights is it that men have been given less of that they need more in order for their to be equality?
I will be away so feel free to make all sorts of debasing comments. (If you didnt make any then you need not respond).
Ultercast - thanx for that. I appreciate it.
You hit the nail on the head - too many people have spent far too much time judging from the sidelines and subsequently basing their judgments not on fact, but ridiculous pubescent fiction.
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Beached Whale said:Ill just give a tiny seemingly insignificant example. It is a fact that women have to work harder in the same job for less pay.
YOUR DICK (NOT YOUR ABILITY OR EXPERIENCE) DECIDES YOU GET MORE MONEY.
That is not equal.
You're either crazy,blind or living 30 years in the past.
I can tell you from working at a state facility that women,gays and minoritys have a FAR better chance of getting the better jobs.
And the first thing that is said if for some reason that they don't get they job is "I didn't get the job because of discrimination"
Then low and behold the supervisors are so terrified of that word that they will give them the job, reguardless of the fact they there were 50 other better employees for the job.
and considering pretty much everyone else in this thread, including the women, think you are making no sense and comming off as a man hater primarily, that should say something. Like I said your not an expert and have no right acting like one from some kind of high horse where everyone else are the unintelligent ones.
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