EQ with Test Enenthate....good mix??

[VictorZ06]

I am about to run my fist cycle and I was going to use EQ with Test Enenthate....but someone told me to use deca instead of EQ. I would love to hear your opinions about the two.


I'll be running somethig like this..

50 mg E/D Dbol wk 1
40 mg E/D Dbol wk 2-4
500 mg E/W Test Enenthate wk 1-12
400 mg E/W Equipose wk 1-12
50 mg E/D Proviron wk 1-14
50 mg E/D Clomid wk 14-19

Should I adjust the Dbol dosage? Is 50mg too much to start with? Should I run it for 5 weeks instead of 4? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!

/Victor

 

[canadianhitman]

Your cycle (Week 1-12) looks great...except for the doses; your doses are way too high for a first cycle!!! I ran a test/EQ cycle with a 4-week Dbol frontload on my last cycle, and I have done many before, and I had great results from running:

20mg/day Dbol (take upon waking, then one every 4 hours)

300mg/week EQ

300mg/week Test Enth

I didn't use Proviron, but it won't hurt to run it. Stick with your layout, just drop the doses and you'll have a great cycle.

Now, as far as your post-cycle recovery, it needs work. For your first post-cycle week (week 13), drop the proviron. Take HCG 500IU every second day for 2 weeks. Then, start Clomid as follows:

Day 1: Clomid 300mg
Day 2-10: Clomid 100mg/day
Day 11-20: Clomid 50mg/day

Be sure to have lots of Nolvadex on hand just in case of gyno, and to run post-cycle. Good luck!

 

[hipsacjack]

Bro, if this is your first cycle and you eat and train like a mofo, you will get good gains off of 250 Test/wk, 200 Eq/wk and 20mg dbol for 4/wks. Trust me. But if you insist on the higher dosage than at least take the dbol down to 30mg.

 

[steelblazin]

Save your cash and get the EQ.

The gains you get will be leaner and the EQ helps to harden you up really good. Run the EQ for the 12 and stop Test at 10 for your post cycle recovery to start 2 weeks after the last EQ shot. Leave the D-Bol at 40mg for 4 weeks until the other 2 kick in.

Personally, it depends on what I am doing for the usage of Deca. If it's joint help then that's the way to go, but I like to maintain a vascular lean look year 'round so I run EQ. Besides, EQ is usually cheaper than Deca anyways. The side effects from Deca range from nothing to Deca dick, Progesterone gyno, bad water retention...etc. Most users of EQ don't have many undesirable effects, unless the feeling hungry all the time is a bad thing. The pumps for EQ are badass as well. Deca is anabolic, moreso than EQ, which is about a half anabolic/androgen. Deca by itself is not a good builder, that's why you see all using some type of Test with it, to combat the negative sides.

Just my .02 of what I have experienced and seen. Hope this helped your decision.

 

[babbabuee]

i ran 500mg sust/wk with 25mg dbol wks 1-4 of my first cycle.

my next cycel will be 500mg test/wk + 400mg EQ /wk, no dbol.

I think you don't need all that for a first cycle. take it easy on the first cycle and believe me, you're going to want to do another one so you can up it a bit then.

 

[VictorZ06]

Thanks for all of your replies guys!! Yea...I thought my doses were a bit high for a first time AS user. OK, so I will lower the EQ to about 300mg a wk. The test enenthate I get comes in 250mg amps so getting 300mg is gonna be kinda of a pain i think.

I believe I can mix the EQ and test in one injection, so how often would I be injecting per week? I planned on doing 200EQ and 250 test (in one injection) twice a week.

Now that I realize that I would be using too much, what should my schedule be? 250 test & 300EQ or perhaps keep the test at 500 (250X2, mon&thurs) since I can only get the test amps in 250mg? But then I think 500 is a bit much so...

I have a lot of different dbol suggestions....everywhere from 20-50. Got to figure that out...perhaps average and do 30-35?

I am trying to figure all this out ASAP so I can order the rest of my gear!! I need to figure out how much to order.

Thanks for all the help guys!

 

[VictorZ06]

BTW...I'm 25 years old, 150 lbs., 5'10", work out often, VERY high metabolism, and never used AS before....maybe this info can help you guys help me find my correct doses. Thanks again!

/Victor

 

[bicepts101]

BTW...I'm 25 years old, 150 lbs., 5'10", work out often, VERY high metabolism, and never used AS before....maybe this info can help you guys help me find my correct doses. Thanks again!

/Victor

God dam! you better start eating bud.

im 5'11 195 and im feel like im skinney as shit. I cant imagine 45lbs lighter.

Eat every 2-3 hours man, that how i do it.

 

[canadianhitman]

250mg test/week will be just fine since it's your first cycle....my first cycle was i amp of Omnadren per week with 200mg of Deca, and I grew a lot!

 

[babbabuee]

I take back my suggestion. 5'10" 150lbs, i think you need to learn how to eat first. I did my first cycle at 164lbs 5'8", but I gained 14lbs naturally in the year prior to turning to AAS and I still think I started too early. you can take a gram of test a week and if you aren't eating correctly, you aren't going to gain. I think a lot of guys on here would agree with me. Just think about it a bit. how about this suggestion: Tell yourself that if you can get to at least a solid 160lbs (that's with no clothes and dry as a bone), then you could look into AAS. Until then, feel free to keep reading and learning. good luck whatever you choose.