EQ vs. Deca

[melochai]

This may be kinda stupid, but I was wondering...

EQ and Deca have been argued about one being better than the other for as long as I can remember.

I have read that you get more "quality" gains from EQ, but more mass from Deca.

My question is this... Is the extra mass from the water retention that many people see from Deca ? If so, would an anti-E help with this ?

If so, then the 2 would be basically the same, as far as effects go, right?

 

[Big O]

This is my 2nd cycle in a with using both...the deca is for all the freaking joint pains when staying off for awhile.....the eq gets me vascular ,better pumps and

 

[T-Matt]

Man, I have a stash of Deca and I'll never use that shit again.. When we talk about complete shutdown, we mean COMPLETE SHUTDOWN.. EQ is superior all day.. The magic number with EQ is 600mg/wk.. If you can get some boldenone-no-ester you'll feel like Superman in 2 days..

T-Matt

This may be kinda stupid, but I was wondering...

EQ and Deca have been argued about one being better than the other for as long as I can remember.

I have read that you get more "quality" gains from EQ, but more mass from Deca.

My question is this... Is the extra mass from the water retention that many people see from Deca ? If so, would an anti-E help with this ?

If so, then the 2 would be basically the same, as far as effects go, right?

 

[bca21]

hows recovery on deca? I want to run sus e3d and deca400mg a week for 10 weeks eventually but how hard is it to recover from? I like eq but i dont like the14-16 week you have run

 

[instant.muscle]

take test deca and eq, best cycle

 

[bca21]

Recovery is NOT GUARUNTEED.

If you do recover, it will take months. (FULL RECOVERY*)

This is why I do not use Nandrolone, or ANY 19-nor steroid, for that matter.

Bro you got some good info, can i shoot you a pm with some questions?

 

[boxerjake]

This is my 2nd cycle in a with using both...the deca is for all the freaking joint pains when staying off for awhile.....the eq gets me vascular ,better pumps and

Stick with the EQ for quality gains and use ALFLUTOP for your joint issues , you'll be happier in the long run .

 

[Big O]

Ive been thinking of that exact same thing...using the afluetop...I know Alin carries it...
I'm 47 now and have used alot of gear...its probably time for this old man to use tren a for awhile

 

[instant.muscle]

1-12 Test 500mg
1-12 EQ 750mg
1-12 Deca 400mg
best cycle eva

 

[ALIN]

This may be kinda stupid, but I was wondering...

EQ and Deca have been argued about one being better than the other for as long as I can remember.

I have read that you get more "quality" gains from EQ, but more mass from Deca.

My question is this... Is the extra mass from the water retention that many people see from Deca ? If so, would an anti-E help with this ?

If so, then the 2 would be basically the same, as far as effects go, right?

With the Eq the gains will be dryer, leaner gains.

 

[bigrand]

Nothing but quality gains for me on nandrolones.....and you will recover eventually....i recover within a few weeks, no deca dick either. Never used EQ, willing to try, but i love what i get from NPP.

 

[mr. snakes]

1-12 Test 500mg
1-12 EQ 750mg
1-12 Deca 400mg
best cycle eva

Try doing a Test, Tren, EQ cycle. You might be MORE impressed with it than the Test, Deca, EQ cycle.

 

[turbogreek]

Nothing but quality gains for me on nandrolones.....and you will recover eventually....i recover within a few weeks, no deca dick either. Never used EQ, willing to try, but i love what i get from NPP.

same here. never any problems with nandrolones. love deca and hate EQ for me

 

[DannoMight]

Try doing a Test, Tren, EQ cycle. You might be MORE impressed with it than the Test, Deca, EQ cycle.

One of the best and basic cycles rigt there.

 

[Advisor_x]

I substitute deca with boldenone........gyno problems with deca.......

 

[instant.muscle]

Try doing a Test, Tren, EQ cycle. You might be MORE impressed with it than the Test, Deca, EQ cycle.

i heard tren sides r horrible and gains r hard 2 keep but i'll consider it, how long would i run it?

 

[sparetire]

i heard tren sides r horrible and gains r hard 2 keep but i'll consider it, how long would i run it?

I'm having gyno surgery this coming weds. because of tren..trust me, it's not worth running.

 

[DonCorleone562]

I'm having gyno surgery this coming weds. because of tren..trust me, it's not worth running.

Bro, where you running an anti-E while on the tren? Or did the tren over power the anti-E?

 

[Makavelli]

Everyone is different, but EQ is much better when you compare gains to sides for most. I like EQ when cutting as it gives great vascularity and nice slow gains without any noticeable sides. I don't like deca and only recommend it when someone is really insisting on using it.

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

i like them both together...high eq like 600mg and low deca like 200-300mg for me...i am not holding water at all

 

[instant.muscle]

i'm taking a cycle of EQ at 750mg and Test at 400mg, im lookin for a 3rd compound, i'm lookin for mass(lean), but no bloat, people say deca or tren trying 2 decide on 3rd compound, mak what u think about tren?

 

[Makavelli]

i'm taking a cycle of EQ at 750mg and Test at 400mg, im lookin for a 3rd compound, i'm lookin for mass(lean), but no bloat, people say deca or tren trying 2 decide on 3rd compound, mak what u think about tren?

Tren by far bro. Throw tren in there and your physique will transform like magic assuming your diet is on. My fav cycle is test, eq, tren, and winstrol. That will make you hard as a rock.

 

[instant.muscle]

but will i put any mass on?

 

[Makavelli]

but will i put any mass on?

Hell jyeah dawg! That's the beauty of tren. It's the nutrient partitioning AAS there is. You can grow on reduced cals.

 

[instant.muscle]

argh deca or tren.... which one is harder 2 recover from? this will b my 5th cycle

 

[instant.muscle]

is tren for a 5th cycle too soon?

 

[bigrand]

For me, tren was way harder to recover from.

 

[instant.muscle]

did u try not 2 run pct then realize it wasnt gonna work so then u decided 2 or u did it from the get go? hey mak help me put 2gether a test/eq/tren cycle

 

[bigrand]

I always run a PCT, tren was the worst so far in terms of shutdown on cycle and recovery.

 

[instant.muscle]

hopefully it wont b for me

 

[mikefear]

one is a testosterone, one is a nandrolone.. too much comparison going on.. they arent the same and should not be compared as such

 

[instant.muscle]

eq is a testosterone?

 

[bigrand]

no, its boldenone

 

[instant.muscle]

i know it is, but y did he say it was a test was what i ment, my reply was sarcastic

 

[mikefear]

clarification:

It’s not very common to compare Eq to testosterone, however…a far more common comparison is between Eq and Deca. I suspect this is because when Dan Duchaine introduced this compound to the steroid using community, he made an immediate comparison to Deca, speculating that it would act similarly to Deca but like a much stronger version of it. Eq doesn’t actually act much like deca at all; Deca is actually a progestin and a 19-nor derived steroid whereas Eq is more closely related to testosterone (being only one double bond differ rent). Duchaine later rescinded his original statement on Eq and said that it was disappointing as a mass builder when compared with deca, but a far better drug than for both strength gains and vascularity. Unfortunately, the myth that Eq’s action is similar to Deca’s has persisted for nearly 2 decades after he revised his opinion; this is most evident on internet message boards today, where many will advise against including both of them in a cycle because “they act the same way.”

 

[instant.muscle]

word, gotcha chief

 

[bigrand]

Well, they are all different compounds that work differently....depends on your goals. They may compare in certain areas (low sides in EQ and Deca) but they are different.

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

they are both great compounds...i think that they both have their place and should be used when you are looking for other things

 

[Anthony Roberts]

eq is a testosterone?

Depends on how you look at things....

Eq is testosterone with an added 1-2 double bond. That bond makes it convert to estrogen at a much lower rate...but other than that bond, it resembles esterfied testosterone (structurally) in every way.

If anyone's interested, the *former* #1 selling author of anabolic steroid reference guides claims that you get more water retention with Eq than you do with Deca....showing once again that that he has not a fucking clue about what happens in the real world with these drugs.