Not to dish anybody's views but if you read over the years I have psoted on eq only cycles as well as eq/deca cycles. I see the first results with a few weeks in hunger, hardness by week 5 full effects into weeks 6,7,8 and than off at 10 or 11 at the max. I think this longer on is due to a few reasons. One is younger guys pushing the envelope on year round gear use ( a big mistake) and two using the gear as an excuse to eat poorly or work out half assed ( not saying folks here just in general). When I was on my eq only cycles I was a madman about diet, cardio, and exercise and it was never half assed. I can't see how if you put all you can diet wise into a cycle you can stay on the same compound and see results past 12 weeks. Again just my reasoning and at some point your body will get used to the compound you you start using more an dmore to see the effects which is an endless cycle.