Eq by itself will not give you the initial size that test will, but give it 6-8 weeks and if your diet is right you will tighten up like a sumbitch. If you want more size, run it with test. Saying that Eq is useless is jumping the gun. To me it is one of the best agents to stack with test for quality gains. I put my assistant manager on a 10 week run and he added around 12 pounds lean and dropped 4%BF. 10 weeks post cycle he kept around 9 pounds.