gymrattmike
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What does everyone think of epi ??
Epi is the original pro steroid that got things going back in the day. There are no issues with estrogen conversion and in fact can act like an anti e. Also the gains are lean and dry with minimal sides. Great stuff. I squirrled away several bottles.
Great I thought so. I've ordered several bottles. What I'd best for liver support and pct ? I'm running for 6 weeks with test
N2Guard, HCGenerate, bridge, and then something like forged liver support on cycle. Drink a lot of water also.
Epi is the original pro steroid that got things going back in the day. There are no issues with estrogen conversion and in fact can act like an anti e. Also the gains are lean and dry with minimal sides. Great stuff. I squirrled away several bottles.
Milk Thistle also works if you can't afford the aforementioned liver support.

Check with Needto on this, I think he posted an article or blog post on how milk thistle reduces the anabolic effect and that's why he does not include it his formulas... (it could have been an old Anthony Roberts article and I am getting them confused, but milk thistle cuts gains - go with Forged Liver!!)
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N2Guard and HCGenerate while on cycle. For PCT get Forged Post Cycle and Phytoserms or PES Anabeta.
If you order from orbit or Ntbm I have discount codes for you. Just shoot me a pm.
Is this all the PCT you would need? I have 2 bottles of epi on the way and am looking to start my run of it in January 2012 and will be getting my house in order with support supps and PCT in place before I start. Also, would there be any use running the HCGenerate through PCT as well or should it be kept just for on cycle?
Check with Needto on this, I think he posted an article or blog post on how milk thistle reduces the anabolic effect and that's why he does not include it his formulas... (it could have been an old Anthony Roberts article and I am getting them confused, but milk thistle cuts gains - go with Forged Liver!!)
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Best thing to do is dose your milk thistle 3-4 hours after your doses of Epi-strong. Dosing it with or around the same time can negatively affect its interaction with the androgen receptor
Read the ingredient list on N2Guard --on your own-- and get back to me on this.
O.K. so Milk thistle IS on the forged liver & N2guard label however:
1) I said check with Needto - I could be wrong
2) I said it was either a post by Needto or Anthony Roberts. Here is the link to Roberts blog post on Milk Thistle & androgen receptors: Milk Thistle – good for the liver, bad for androgen receptors | Anthony Roberts Blog
3) I think Nate had a rebuttal to this post and obviously decided to keep Milk Thistle in his products
I am not sure who is right / wrong but I do use Forged Liver for I think the rebuttal was along the lines that a little AR down regulation is NOT worth liver damage -these posts were a while ago and I can't remember every detail - hence my 1st suggestion to contact Needto for an update
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O.K. so Milk thistle IS on the forged liver & N2guard label however:
1) I said check with Needto - I could be wrong
2) I said it was either a post by Needto or Anthony Roberts. Here is the link to Roberts blog post on Milk Thistle & androgen receptors: Milk Thistle – good for the liver, bad for androgen receptors | Anthony Roberts Blog
3) I think Nate had a rebuttal to this post and obviously decided to keep Milk Thistle in his products
I am not sure who is right / wrong but I do use Forged Liver for I think the rebuttal was along the lines that a little AR down regulation is NOT worth liver damage -these posts were a while ago and I can't remember every detail - hence my 1st suggestion to contact Needto for an update
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