enough deca to be effective?

[solidrock5]

new cycle in acouple months first time using a coumpound like deca or tren thats why dose is small.
wk1-10 deca 150 2x week
1-13 test e 250 2x wk
1-5 dbol 40 mg ed

i dont want to up dose of deca and no be able to smash even tho ill have some caber on hand. but i also dont want that little ammount to be a waste.

 

[Keith1]

you will make gains from 300mg a week of deca. glad to see your starting on the low side and not jumpin in with higher doses.Good you have caber on hand, although at 300mg a week you probably wont need it

 

[stevesmi]

thats not a small dose at all. that is a standard dose. if anything you are dosing the dbol high. 20-30mg of legit dbol is ample. 40mg is too much

are you running the proper ancillaries on this? you are gonna have crazy aromatization and progesterone issues if you aren't.

 

[Keith1]

My bad I just read about deca
U could start with 200mg but 300 works to

 

[stevesmi]

you will make gains from 300mg a week of deca. glad to see your starting on the low side and not jumpin in with higher doses.Good you have caber on hand, although at 300mg a week you probably wont need it

trust me man i have a huge pile of PM's from guys who ran deca with no ancillaries at that dose and they developed gyno, deca dick, and severe problems with recovery.

you should always be safe than sorry. i would run caber with deca or tren everytime no matter the dose. and I would also definately run an AI with any AAS that aromatizes .. including test, dbol, deca, etc etc. makes recovery much easier when your estrogen isn't sky high going into pct.

 

[Keith1]

Ya always use an ai. I'm sure u do have a of people messaging u about gyno issues and such. My theory is why run more things than necessary and get more sides. Granted sure gyno would be bad but u know what I mean?
You may want to add hcg to your cycle to make recovery easier to

 

[dylangemelli]

when it comes to deca and tren, i would not fuck around... i would just run all the ancillaries that are needed for prevention on these cycles... deca sides especially can get out of hand and at a very quick pace for some and its just not worth the trouble... caber and aromasin or arimidex and you will have yourself protected nicely... i do agree that the dbol dosage is a bit high... i think 30 mg would be very sufficient on this cycle...

what does your pct look like??

 

[muscleaddiction]

Hi Keith!!! Don't want to be ganging up on you...but Dylan and Steve are right, I would rather live with some sides than with gyno...I speak from pure experience!

 

[Keith1]

Haha no worries guys.

I just give my thoughts. I dont want to give wrong info just what works for me.
I see what u guys r saying. Mabe since I am not super gyno prone aand I know what doses for me I need parmi with tren and deca.

 

[newNimproved]

id run the test a lil higher, around 600mg or 750 and 300 on deca is ok, but u may need 450 a week. honestly think the best course would be to line everything up BEFORE you run this. ie food, supps, training..........you want to make this one count!!!!

and the dbol dose is decent, but u may get a lot of water retention.........i prefer winny and var