Elite Is Going Downhill....

[Enigmaxxx7]

was this thread prompted by george? maybe he wanted to get some input (negative or positive) on what board members think about the current board.

did he dupe us again!?!?!
LOL

 

[PeanutButterMan]

O GIVE ME A BREAK, going downhill? lol There were people saying the same thing a year ago, infact all the time. Everymonth someone makes one of these idiotic posts. It must be that damn deca again turning more guys into women.

 

[PimpnAintEasy]

I have to chime in here in defense of Elite. First of all, I rarely post a new thread, try to respond to posts I have either experience with or have read up on, spend a shitload of time combing the archives, make an occassional wise crack, and LMFAO at some of the comedy here. Doing this, I have gotten so much out of this site.

Here's the thing, what are your options? Forums where you might wait days for a response? Dry Discussion with the same 3 or 4 guys answering/asking most questions where everyone's opinion starts sounding the same? MuscleMag is a joke, Renegade serves 1 purpose, and I can go on an on. Elite sucks and its great.....its like real life----schmucks, assholes, cool guys, knowledgeable guys, morons, the grammatically challenged, scammers, butt fuckers, you name it, they're all here, there isn't another site like it really.

If we can just encourage more use of the search button, and be mindful of the rules and ettiquette, this site will remain what is IMO the single best resource for CURRENT info on AS.

 

[Trevdog]

By El Cubano: "VTAT, who the hell are you to be passing judgement on the mods? You got like 2 posts and you act like you own the place. What's up? Is that silver spoon up your ass starting to hurt?"


With all due respect, I have to say that I am totally with VTAT on this one. In a free country and on an uncensored discussion board, you can criticize whoever you want to. And if a mod isn't doing his job the way that a member believes he should, that member has the right, if not the duty, to voice his opinion. It is really irrelevant how many posts the member or the mod has. Mods are not Gods, and censorship is just plain wrong.

 

[Wrongun]

By El Cubano: "VTAT, who the hell are you to be passing judgement on the mods? You got like 2 posts and you act like you own the place. What's up? Is that silver spoon up your ass starting to hurt?"


With all due respect, I have to say that I am totally with VTAT on this one. In a free country and on an uncensored discussion board, you can criticize whoever you want to. And if a mod isn't doing his job the way that a member believes he should, that member has the right, if not the duty, to voice his opinion. It is really irrelevant how many posts the member or the mod has. Mods are not Gods, and censorship is just plain wrong.

Everyone has their opinion and rightly so. The new Mods have just been given the position and need time to establish and show what benefits they will bring.
If you think a Mod is not doing their job then you really do have to say why and preferably take it up with them direct.
In the specific case of Fonz (as VTAT states) then i personnally (and it is MY OPINION) that he is more than the required credentials to be a Moderator for not only his extensive knowledge on the subject but also his commitment to the board. I say this as he has helped me in the past and continues to contribute well.

As for the other Mods (e.g. Julez) i do not know much about them but will give them time and assistance (not sure how i can help) to grow into the role as i do feel it is a benefit to the board.

Again this is my oppinion as you say we all have one. I do think that you have gone about it the wrong way. If you have specifics then you should take it up with the person concerned before bringing it to the public domain as it is shit like this that starts these kinds of posts.

P.S. Mike looks like you need another trip to Thailand mate (enjoyed your posts a little while ago).

 

[manny78]

come on guys this board remain the best around.... lotta people, lotta informations........ we're here to learn.

 

[M.O.D]

VTAT, who the hell are you to be passing judgement on the mods? You got like 2 posts and you act like you own the place. What's up? Is that silver spoon up your ass starting to hurt?

just becasue a person has been on this site for a long time, a mod or has a bunch of cure little stars next to their name doesnt mean they are experts...case point the fonz...

i think you owe vtat an apology

 

[Nathan]

I like the way Pimpn put it.

 

[Trevdog]

Everyone has their opinion and rightly so. The new Mods have just been given the position and need time to establish and show what benefits they will bring.
If you think a Mod is not doing their job then you really do have to say why and preferably take it up with them direct.
In the specific case of Fonz (as VTAT states) then i personnally (and it is MY OPINION) that he is more than the required credentials to be a Moderator for not only his extensive knowledge on the subject but also his commitment to the board. I say this as he has helped me in the past and continues to contribute well.

As for the other Mods (e.g. Julez) i do not know much about them but will give them time and assistance (not sure how i can help) to grow into the role as i do feel it is a benefit to the board.

Again this is my oppinion as you say we all have one. I do think that you have gone about it the wrong way. If you have specifics then you should take it up with the person concerned before bringing it to the public domain as it is shit like this that starts these kinds of posts."



Bro I think you are reading more into my post than I intended to convey. I was simply defending the right to free speech, something I consider fundamental and crucial here. I respectfully disagree with your position that a disagreement with a mod needs to be resolved privately. Maybe some people think that the best way to deal with a grievance is to air it publicly.

IMO, "constructive criticism" is much more likely to elicit a response if it is publicly aired and others have an opportunity to hear it, form their own opinions, and contribute to the discussion if they so choose.

I agree that Fonz has the qualifications to be a mod. He has insightfully responded to several questions I have put to him, and I have learned quite a bit from his posts here and on AF. But having such qualifications does not make it right for Fonz, or any other mod for that matter, to delete/move/edit posts that they disagree with, and I stand by my post above.

If people are irritated with this kind of post or thread, I'm sorry, but they don't have to read it. I think that some legitimate issues have been raised about the recent changes here, and it deserves discussion.

 

[M.O.D]

mods like mustang,stew,conan to name a few are smart guys ...guys like fonz should do the right thing and ask to be removed......