eca/nyc mental effects

[DeepZenPill]

Does ECA/NYC make anyone else here retarded? This shit makes me physically wired, but I zone out and can't think straight on the shit. I definitely shouldn't drive on it because I can't concentrate on one thing at a time. I'm just wondering if this is just me. Most of the time this is a negative effect, but at least I can sit in the gym on the bike for 45 min and not be bored.

 

[Ceebs]

What dose are you taking? It might be too high - much more than a half dose of either wires me to the point of retardation. There's a bell curve with most drugs where past a certain amount, stimulants actually have a depressant effect, and vice versa.

Try lowering the dose a bit when you need to do mental aerobics, and see if you get a different effect.

 

[DeepZenPill]

Well, that's the thing, with a lower dosage I barely feel any effect other than curbed hunger. I had to increase the dosage in order to feel it as a stimulant.

 

[gsxr1000]

I know just what you're talking about. Whenever I take ECA I spaces me out. Companies market it by saying that it increases your intensity and focus in the gym, I'm the opposite. I can't think straight when I'm lifting, I keep zoning out. I can never lift as heavy. I fell like I don't have a good mind/muscle connection when taking it.

 

[DeepZenPill]

I know just what you're talking about. Whenever I take ECA I spaces me out. Companies market it by saying that it increases your intensity and focus in the gym, I'm the opposite. I can't think straight when I'm lifting, I keep zoning out. I can never lift as heavy. I fell like I don't have a good mind/muscle connection when taking it.

I'm exactly the same way, I can never lift as heavy or do as many sets as I normally do. Then sometimes I stand around and can't think of what exercise I was about to do, or what set I'm on. I'm glad to find out it's not just me who does this.

I love it for when I do cardio on the bike though, I think it definitely helps make it more effective for me.

 

[gsxr1000]

I'm exactly the same way, I can never lift as heavy or do as many sets as I normally do. Then sometimes I stand around and can't think of what exercise I was about to do, or what set I'm on. I'm glad to find out it's not just me who does this.

I love it for when I do cardio on the bike though, I think it definitely helps make it more effective for me.

Yup, I've read in a few places that ephedrine can suppress your bodies test. levels, so that might account somewhat for the strength decrease.

 

[Ceebs]

Yup, I've read in a few places that ephedrine can suppress your bodies test. levels, so that might account somewhat for the strength decrease.

Ephedrine and caffiene probably also have a negative effect on glycogen storage.

DeepZen, forgot to mention this in my first post - are EC & NYC all you're taking? You might look into adding DL-Phenylalanine and/or L-Tyrosine to your stack. These are precursors to the neurotransmitters that EC & NYC make your body release.

 

[Fyre]

Great point Ceebs, Tyrosine would probably do the trick.