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Ebola

CNN) -- [Breaking News update 11:25 a.m.]
The second Dallas health care worker with Ebola was on a flight from Cleveland to Dallas on Monday -- the day before she reported symptoms, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Wednesday. Because of the proximity in time between the Monday evening flight and the first report of her illness, the CDC wants to interview all 132 passengers on her flight -- Frontier Airlines Flight 1143 from Cleveland to Dallas/Fort Worth, which landed at 8:16 p.m. CT Monday, the CDC said.

poor people already had to fly Frontier. lololo
 
cindylou said:
CNN) -- [Breaking News update 11:25 a.m.]
The second Dallas health care worker with Ebola was on a flight from Cleveland to Dallas on Monday -- the day before she reported symptoms, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Wednesday. Because of the proximity in time between the Monday evening flight and the first report of her illness, the CDC wants to interview all 132 passengers on her flight -- Frontier Airlines Flight 1143 from Cleveland to Dallas/Fort Worth, which landed at 8:16 p.m. CT Monday, the CDC said.

poor people already had to fly Frontier. lololo
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FUCKING FRONTIER. Don't even get me started on my Frontier rant. You know how I feel! lol

Also, I bet they're fine. It's not contagious until there are symptoms, and even if hers were just starting then, I'm sure the chances are extremely low. Fingers crossed.
 
I don't think it's that contagious even when you start showing symptoms. I'm not doctor but it appears to me so far in the beginning of the infection the virus is content multiplying inside its current host, but it gets freaky more so towards the end if the virus has been able to kill the host it gets desperate to find another
 
I also want to know why the fuck someone in direct contact with an Ebola patient who has not yet cleared the 21-day waiting period was allowed to fly places and shit. Tell me this.
 
cindylou said:
I don't think it's that contagious even when you start showing symptoms. I'm not doctor but it appears to me so far in the beginning of the infection the virus is content multiplying inside its current host, but it gets freaky more so towards the end if the virus has been able to kill the host it gets desperate to find another
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Unfortunately, not the case. The cameraman who caught it believes his contact was from splash back when he was disinfecting a car.

This is from the CDC's website:
How long does Ebola live outside the body?

Ebola is killed with hospital-grade disinfectants (such as household bleach). Ebola on dried on surfaces such as doorknobs and countertops can survive for several hours; however, virus in body fluids (such as blood) can survive up to several days at room temperature.
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musclemom said:
Unfortunately, not the case. The cameraman who caught it believes his contact was from splash back when he was disinfecting a car.

This is from the CDC's website:
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Right. I was under the impression (and maybe I'm wrong) that the car he was cleaning had someone inside who was at the end stage of the virus who died when the fluid coming from that poor soul was at its most contagious just saturated completely with hundreds of millions of individual virus particles
 
miplank said:
Lil soon to be calling woodyo names, isn't it?
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Obviously that was meant for you.

...but I have called Woody a dick - like last night when we were done watching House of 1,000 Corpses, and he kept telling me there was someone outside our window and scaring me. :bigkiss:
 
digimon7068 said:
can i leper colony??
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Well ... we're both old enough that this isn't the first time we've heard of ebola and if you remember, that's kind of how they handled it back then, quarantine and let it "burn itself out" which resulted in the death of a village of a few hundred, instead of the current thousands.
 
musclemom said:
Well ... we're both old enough that this isn't the first time we've heard of ebola and if you remember, that's kind of how they handled it back then, quarantine and let it "burn itself out" which resulted in the death of a village of a few hundred, instead of the current thousands.
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i actually wasn't trying to be irreverent...for a change :)
 
PICK3 said:
You and digi are old enough to remember teh Justinianic Pandemic
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Of course, once you reach a certain age you start forgetting shit so I actually had to google that mofo.
 
AFeedz said:
I also want to know why the fuck someone in direct contact with an Ebola patient who has not yet cleared the 21-day waiting period was allowed to fly places and shit. Tell me this.
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Dear Cindy,

Now someone who treated patient #1 is on a cruise (and quarantined on that cruise now). Granted they're almost at the end of the 21 day window and they have no symptoms. Still crazy to me they're being allowed to travel via mass transport.
 
AFeedz said:
Dear Cindy,

Now someone who treated patient #1 is on a cruise (and quarantined on that cruise now). Granted they're almost at the end of the 21 day window and they have no symptoms. Still crazy to me they're being allowed to travel via mass transport.
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lmfao

I saw that late late last night, they had some reports coming out of Belize that someone on Carnival Magic was a Tx healthcare worker that treated Duncan and Belize wouldnt let them off the ship. I thought it was BS fake report because I was like, no fucking way someone from TX P that treated Duncan in any way would get on a cruise ship.

lol this is like a bad disaster movie where you're like, no way would that happen.

even if she had some minor symptoms it's probably okay, but still. I guess people really need to be told what to do.
 
I'm gonna need to know WhyTF Mitch bombed Cindy. I'm trying to talk about retarded, Texan, Ebola-ridden healthcare workers.
 
Speaking of scripts, my hydro script is ready to be picked up
 
AFeedz said:
I'm gonna need to know WhyTF Mitch bombed Cindy. I'm trying to talk about retarded, Texan, Ebola-ridden healthcare workers.
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bc he's a huge pain in the ass

gets annoyed w/ me talking about this

to be fair I've been talking about it to him since June or July though

I will not be silenced! lololo
 
oh god, everyone who gets to know me knows I really wanna be a prepper. lolo

But don't let myself get that far, I just like to talk. It's interesting to me to think about different scenarios and disasters like this have always morbidly fascinated me. Watching the questions the reporters asked Josh during the white house briefing this week. It's like a real life movie only the actors are way less competent. Remember back in the day when the disaster movies.. think Armageddon... and they always portrayed United States like AMERICA FUCK YEAH SAVIOR OF THE WORLD then you realize IRL it's nothing at all like that and no one is coming to save you, because they can't.

Honestly though guys, do you not know any nurses? I'm close to a lot of nurses and even if those of us out and about aren't gonna get this tomorrow...read The Hot Zone. The nurses and our hospitals are not prepared for this yet and they are uneasy and if something doesn't change, there will be no one to treat anyone. They have kids and families too. We aren't prepared for more than a handful of cases here and what happened in Dallas is frightening to think that they thought we were so prepared and our healthcare system so superior and come to find out, only 4 hospitals in the US are equipped to deal with this. Most of us are anxious of the idea of puking up our liquified digestive system, not being able to get pain meds bc you can't insert a needle, and well honestly, your vagina can disintegrate. I'm just saying.
 
cindylou said:
oh god, everyone who gets to know me knows I really wanna be a prepper. lolo

But don't let myself get that far, I just like to talk. It's interesting to me to think about different scenarios and disasters like this have always morbidly fascinated me. Watching the questions the reporters asked Josh during the white house briefing this week. It's like a real life movie only the actors are way less competent. Remember back in the day when the disaster movies.. think Armageddon... and they always portrayed United States like AMERICA FUCK YEAH SAVIOR OF THE WORLD then you realize IRL it's nothing at all like that and no one is coming to save you, because they can't.

Honestly though guys, do you not know any nurses? I'm close to a lot of nurses and even if those of us out and about aren't gonna get this tomorrow...read The Hot Zone. The nurses and our hospitals are not prepared for this yet and they are uneasy and if something doesn't change, there will be no one to treat anyone. They have kids and families too. We aren't prepared for more than a handful of cases here and what happened in Dallas is frightening to think that they thought we were so prepared and our healthcare system so superior and come to find out, only 4 hospitals in the US are equipped to deal with this. Most of us are anxious of the idea of puking up our liquified digestive system, not being able to get pain meds bc you can't insert a needle, and well honestly, your vagina can disintegrate. I'm just saying.
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Now thats what i call a cool fucking story rob
 
cindylou said:
oh god, everyone who gets to know me knows I really wanna be a prepper. lolo

But don't let myself get that far, I just like to talk. It's interesting to me to think about different scenarios and disasters like this have always morbidly fascinated me. Watching the questions the reporters asked Josh during the white house briefing this week. It's like a real life movie only the actors are way less competent. Remember back in the day when the disaster movies.. think Armageddon... and they always portrayed United States like AMERICA FUCK YEAH SAVIOR OF THE WORLD then you realize IRL it's nothing at all like that and no one is coming to save you, because they can't.

Honestly though guys, do you not know any nurses? I'm close to a lot of nurses and even if those of us out and about aren't gonna get this tomorrow...read The Hot Zone. The nurses and our hospitals are not prepared for this yet and they are uneasy and if something doesn't change, there will be no one to treat anyone. They have kids and families too. We aren't prepared for more than a handful of cases here and what happened in Dallas is frightening to think that they thought we were so prepared and our healthcare system so superior and come to find out, only 4 hospitals in the US are equipped to deal with this. Most of us are anxious of the idea of puking up our liquified digestive system, not being able to get pain meds bc you can't insert a needle, and well honestly, your vagina can disintegrate. I'm just saying.
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I know lots of people in the medical field. If I were a nurse at this point though, I would take it upon myself to read everything I could about ebola and about the regulations and safety measures health workers should be using.

The first nurses who got it get a pass (barely) because it was unexpected. Honestly at this point, if any nurse, doctor, etc. is contaminated treating someone in the US, it's their own fault. They can't blame the hospital anymore like nurses in Dallas are doing. It's their job, they should be doing follow up on their own. Plenty of jobs require that you continue learning pretty much forever and nursing is one of those jobs.

Funny thing is, even with the first nurses, if I was told I had to treat someone with an infectious, potentially deadly disease, I can't imagine myself taking someone's word on what to do or winging it like they did. I'm sure as hell I'd find out exactly what I had to be wearing and what the guidelines were with the CDC, which none of them did. It's ridiculous to me they aren't more accountable with all the "they never taught us this. They didn't prepare us. Etc" They knew what they were treating and they chose not to go get answers. Should the answers have been given to them? Yes, but that doesn't excuse not going to find them when they weren't provided.

Is that mean? At every job I've ever had, I'm expected to do and know things that people won't show or tell me. It's extra work than it could have been, but you do it cuz it's your job - and you'd think they'd be more inclined to do so considering lives are at stake. I blame them as much as I blame the hospital for not giving them proper training.
 
I did read only 7-8 beds in the US are ready for an Ebola patient though. Hopefully after this first failure, our shit is together enough that we don't need them.
 
AFeedz said:
I know lots of people in the medical field. If I were a nurse at this point though, I would take it upon myself to read everything I could about ebola and about the regulations and safety measures health workers should be using.

The first nurses who got it get a pass (barely) because it was unexpected. Honestly at this point, if any nurse, doctor, etc. is contaminated treating someone in the US, it's their own fault. They can't blame the hospital anymore like nurses in Dallas are doing. It's their job, they should be doing follow up on their own. Plenty of jobs require that you continue learning pretty much forever and nursing is one of those jobs.

Funny thing is, even with the first nurses, if I was told I had to treat someone with an infectious, potentially deadly disease, I can't imagine myself taking someone's word on what to do or winging it like they did. I'm sure as hell I'd find out exactly what I had to be wearing and what the guidelines were with the CDC, which none of them did. It's ridiculous to me they aren't more accountable with all the "they never taught us this. They didn't prepare us. Etc" They knew what they were treating and they chose not to go get answers. Should the answers have been given to them? Yes, but that doesn't excuse not going to find them when they weren't provided.

Is that mean? At every job I've ever had, I'm expected to do and know things that people won't show or tell me. It's extra work than it could have been, but you do it cuz it's your job - and you'd think they'd be more inclined to do so considering lives are at stake. I blame them as much as I blame the hospital for not giving them proper training.
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tl;dr
 
Lol @ the tags

Years go by and I'm still in someone's brain long past since I've forgotten them. I must be an excellent lover.
 
AFeedz said:
I know lots of people in the medical field. If I were a nurse at this point though, I would take it upon myself to read everything I could about ebola and about the regulations and safety measures health workers should be using.

The first nurses who got it get a pass (barely) because it was unexpected. Honestly at this point, if any nurse, doctor, etc. is contaminated treating someone in the US, it's their own fault. They can't blame the hospital anymore like nurses in Dallas are doing. It's their job, they should be doing follow up on their own. Plenty of jobs require that you continue learning pretty much forever and nursing is one of those jobs.

Funny thing is, even with the first nurses, if I was told I had to treat someone with an infectious, potentially deadly disease, I can't imagine myself taking someone's word on what to do or winging it like they did. I'm sure as hell I'd find out exactly what I had to be wearing and what the guidelines were with the CDC, which none of them did. It's ridiculous to me they aren't more accountable with all the "they never taught us this. They didn't prepare us. Etc" They knew what they were treating and they chose not to go get answers. Should the answers have been given to them? Yes, but that doesn't excuse not going to find them when they weren't provided.

Is that mean? At every job I've ever had, I'm expected to do and know things that people won't show or tell me. It's extra work than it could have been, but you do it cuz it's your job - and you'd think they'd be more inclined to do so considering lives are at stake. I blame them as much as I blame the hospital for not giving them proper training.
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They can blame them until they get the right equipment. The hospital itself (and most hospitals) are unprepared for an ebola patient equipment wise. So while the nurses weren't trained on how to take off the PPE, they didn't even have the proper PPE if they wanted to learn it on their own anyway. So hopefully hospitals are ordering equipment for their nurses.
 
I'm fairly certain Feedz contracted Ebola on the spinning Mexican hat ride today. She's been nauseous all day.
 
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