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AFeedz said:
What about enterovirus? Haven't more kids died from that in the US than Ebola?
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That's hit us up here too. I'm not sure we've had deaths yet but a few reported cases.
 
AFeedz said:
What about enterovirus? Haven't more kids died from that in the US than Ebola?
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Ebola is way way more dangerous than enterovirus! Most kids that get enterovirus just have symptoms of a cold never knowing they had it, although a lot of kids have complications and end up in the hospital it's nothing like ebola which everyone infected would end up in the hospital with half of those infected dying from it.
 
Ebola is scary when you think about it. I can't help but think of World War Z and how fast things really can spread...even though that's a zombie movie. lol Is it the usual, North American complacent attitude that prevents us, as a society, from doing more?
 
Scary shit. This world is so fucked. Hopefully we get this shit under control.
 
sexyMFer said:
Yea, I've never been a prepper but we've stocked up on essentials ahead of the curve. My granddad told me a long time ago it was better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
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My mom is like this. I've started doing it again, since my son left. You even think about how some cities go without power after a major weather system. If you had to do that, could you? Especially in places, like where I live, were a night without heat in the winter could kill you.
 
cindylou said:
Over in West Africa you think? By December/January? That's really the window we got
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I don't know. You've done more reading on it. I just meant here. I say stop sending people over and take steps to make sure it doesn't get in. The stuff they're doing now to keep it out is laughable.
 
Feedz and I went to the SD Zoo and a museum in Balboa Park today. I'm pretty sure we caught something from some of the God Damn nasty 3rd world tourist there.
 
caligirl85 said:
My mom is like this. I've started doing it again, since my son left. You even think about how some cities go without power after a major weather system. If you had to do that, could you? Especially in places, like where I live, were a night without heat in the winter could kill you.
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Come on now...I'm a redneck
 
Seriously though, i could probably support my family for a month or so without problem. I need to stock up more this week
 
sexyMFer said:
I don't know. You've done more reading on it. I just meant here. I say stop sending people over and take steps to make sure it doesn't get in. The stuff they're doing now to keep it out is laughable.
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I agree, no one has changed anything at all..and I do think that if we just keep getting isolated cases here and there that we can contain it. I don't mind sending people there to help stop it. I just don't think people should so easily be able to come back. Aid workers know the dangers. They don't expect to be able to come back, they know how quarantines work. This is ebola!

By january there will be 1.5 million cases if they don't contain it over there. These are the numbers I got from the CDC and they said it was spreading exponentially so I'm okay with people getting in, but I don't understand why non essential travel to and from those countries outside of essential commerce and aid work isn't restricted. I don't understand it.

Oct, 2014 - Infected: 33,701 Dead: 20,601
Nov, 2014 - Infected: 116,941 Dead: 71,486
Dec, 2014 - Infected: 405,786 Dead: 248,057
Jan, 2015 - Infected: 1,408,078 Dead: 860,758 <--- this is the end of the window
Feb, 2015 - Infected: 4,886,029 Dead: 2,986,830
Mar, 2015 - Infected: 16,954,521 Dead: 10,364,299
Apr, 2015 - Infected: 58,832,188 Dead: 35,964,116
May, 2015 - Infected: 204,147,691 Dead: 124,795,483
Jun, 2015 - Infected: 708,392,487 Dead: 433,040,328
Jul, 2015 - Infected: 2,458,121,932 Dead: 1,502,649,937

I'm not a doctor...but ebola has always been treated as something super super super serious. Something that could kill us all. Now it's not a big deal? I don't get it.
 
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There's someone in my city who was isolated and tests were being run this weekend but that's all they would say. No word on results or which hospital
 
Ive got the Atoll stocked with canned goods and pure dirt for the ebolacolypse
 
caligirl85 said:
There's someone in my city who was isolated and tests were being run this weekend but that's all they would say. No word on results or which hospital
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The wouldn't say what hospital? How can they hide something like that? I guess no news is good news.

This is KC's second ebola "scare" ...

the first was a woman who recently returned from Nigeria, but she had another virus.

This man just returned from over there about 5 days ago. He was working as a medic on a ship of some sort off the coast of west africa. He is considered to have a "low to moderate" chance of having the virus.
 
Got to find a blaque-free city if you want to avoid Ebola. Blaque people hate water, so a coastal city is safe.
 
I sort of understand the concern since Ebola is spreading so widely and especially after the WHO's speech about the 70% death rate currently and the prediction that if efforts aren't stepped up in the next 60 days, we could be looking at 10,000 cases a week, but I'm also confused about all the concern on a personal level - unless I'm mistaken, Ebola isn't airborne. You can't just get Ebola from leaving your house and standing next to someone with it or through food or water. To contract it, you would've had to touch the bodily fluid of someone already infected: urine, breast milk, semen, saliva, blood, etc.

It's not something that would mean you couldn't leave your house. This is something you can avoid and that stepped up hand washing can help, am I wrong?
 
I'm not stressing over it but I'll prepare for the worst. Can't hurt anything.

My taxes are due tomorrow but fuck that shit
 
sexyMFer said:
The nurse got it that treated the Dallas dude and she knew all that
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She was working directly with him. She had to have touched some fluid at some point. Just because you know something doesn't mean you're careful.

Seems to me contracting Ebola could be at least mostly avoided with just a little extra caution about who and what you touch and your sanitary habits.
 
AFeedz said:
She was working directly with him. She had to have touched some fluid at some point. Just because you know something doesn't mean you're careful.

Seems to me contracting Ebola could be at least mostly avoided with just a little extra caution about who and what you touch and your sanitary habits.
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So you think the nurse didn't wash her hands? Either this stuff is serious or she's the dumbest nurse I've ever heard of
 
And if washing your hands was enough to keep you safe, they'd be wearing rubber gloves instead of full hazmat suits when dealing with patients
 
They're being safe cuz any fluid from him could infect them with a deadly virus, theyre being cautious because of the severity of the possible outcome, not because they can get Ebola just from being in the room or anything.
 
The nurse went to a prestigious school for nursing . She took all the precautionary. Ebola is obviously airborne ..
 
AFeedz said:
She was working directly with him. She had to have touched some fluid at some point. Just because you know something doesn't mean you're careful.

Seems to me contracting Ebola could be at least mostly avoided with just a little extra caution about who and what you touch and your sanitary habits.
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butt, i can still punch people in the fucking face, right?
 
AFeedz said:
I sort of understand the concern since Ebola is spreading so widely and especially after the WHO's speech about the 70% death rate currently and the prediction that if efforts aren't stepped up in the next 60 days, we could be looking at 10,000 cases a week, but I'm also confused about all the concern on a personal level - unless I'm mistaken, Ebola isn't airborne. You can't just get Ebola from leaving your house and standing next to someone with it or through food or water. To contract it, you would've had to touch the bodily fluid of someone already infected: urine, breast milk, semen, saliva, blood, etc.

It's not something that would mean you couldn't leave your house. This is something you can avoid and that stepped up hand washing can help, am I wrong?
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Well when u snort addys already and u start doin dabs with your boyfriend that couldn't fight his way out of a paper sack, you're gonna be paranoid as fuck
 
it's anxiety over a virus that could or has the potential to dismantle our entire health infrastructure because it has killed so many healthcare workers. 5 of the doctors that co-authored the science study recently published on ebola are dead now. People who know a lot about this virus taking precautions are still getting infected. They said it was because "Africa was a mess" well, Dallas wasn't a mess and you have a healthcare worker infected already.

All that has to be done is temporarily deny visas and travelers from countries that are having widespread outbreaks of ebola virus. There's no reason someone from Liberia ought to be able to fly here right now. There's no reason that any nurse or doctor should have to worry about Ebola showing up in their emergency room like they are right now.
 
But Ebola outbreaks have happened before, since the 70s, no? The only difference this time being it hit significantly bigger African cities allowing the virus access to more hosts and more well traveled ones at that.

It's not going to kill the world. It's not in our air, food or water, which, in my opinion, means it's nothing were unable to overcome.

I don't know. I don't know why I'm not more worried. I give it a few months.
 
There's approximately 316 million people in the US. It's a little too soon to get worried about a couple reported cases. Plus, I'm still trying to kick bird flu and Sars, so I can't worry about Ebola now.
 
WoodyO said:
There's approximately 316 million people in the US. It's a little too soon to get worried about a couple reported cases. Plus, I'm still trying to kick bird flu and Sars, so I can't worry about Ebola now.
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yea what the fuck happened to those deadly epidemics
 
AFeedz said:
Life's rough when you're not an SEC sweetheart.
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fortunately i'm not emotionally-invested in any conference...plus, as soon as al gore's global-warming really kicks in, you're all gonna get flooded out and football will move back up here where it belongs :kiss:
 
Yup.

It's still not scary though. The nurses are even saying they really had no protocols for dealing with it and were just sort of being told what to do on the fly meaning they definitely did fuck up, they didn't know what they were doing, and that the precautions the hospital started with weren't enough i.e. The first version of their protective gear didn't cover their neck and the first Ebola patient's blood samples weren't sent through the standard channels rather than being sealed and personally delivered.
 
Point being it's not some super pathogen that's super crazy contagious. This is just what happens when people fuck up and aren't dealing with it appropriately.
 
You're right that it spreads slowly and is hard to get in the beginning and people going about their lives aren't going to get infected from this, but it's easy for a healthcare worker to get infected. It's super contagious especially at the end stages which is why this is so dangerous for healthcare workers. Just one droplet of blood of at the end stages can contain a hundred million particles of the virus. A contagion that you have to deal with in this manner and be 100% perfect around is extremely contagious for a nurse or caregiver. The reproductive rate of ebola here in the US, a virus which there is no cure and has a 70% horrible, ghastly, undignified death rate is at 2 right now. So bravo Dallas. Bravo US. So far we've done no better dealing with this with our supposed superior healthcare system than west africa so far. How arrogant we are.
 
cindylou said:
You're right that it spreads slowly and is hard to get in the beginning and people going about their lives aren't going to get infected from this, but it's easy for a healthcare worker to get infected. It's super contagious especially at the end stages which is why this is so dangerous for healthcare workers. Just one droplet of blood of at the end stages can contain a hundred million particles of the virus. A contagion that you have to deal with in this manner and be 100% perfect around is extremely contagious for a nurse or caregiver. The reproductive rate of ebola here in the US, a virus which there is no cure and has a 70% horrible, ghastly, undignified death rate is at 2 right now. So bravo Dallas. Bravo US. So far we've done no better dealing with this with our supposed superior healthcare system than west africa so far. How arrogant we are.
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Yeah I agree, healthcare workers have to be careful. Obviously they're directly dealing with and handling infectious fluids from these people, so they need to be considerably more cautious than we do.

I don't think it's even something they need to be 100% perfect around. These nurses coming forward to talk about the lack of protocol and total fuck ups are making it clear Dallas wasn't even close, which makes you think it must not be terribly awful if so far only 2 of the 77 people there who dealt with him are sick. Granted, there's a 21 day period they could get sick that's not yet over, but we'll see.

Dallas was more concerned with dealing with the first patient quickly more so than making sure they were doing it correctly. They've since corrected themselves and added in CDC supervision, help, protocols and guidelines that weren't followed during the care of the first dude.
 
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