Thanks guys thats what I was thinking but most of the stuff Ive been reading it sounded like most people were saying 4. In Jan. I plan to do a 10 wk 500mg test, 500mg primo, 400 eq. with 25 mg aromasin ed and 250iu hcg twice a wk weeks 3-13. I have never done test and cant wait to try running a real cycle. I just want to make sure I have a good pct figured out befor I start it. If any one could make any suggestions I would greatly appreciate it. I have clomid on hand but not totally sure at what dose I should run. I was also planning on hcgen, unleashed and post cycle for 8 weeks Im 29. Thanks for the feedback