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In my opinion - Not Natural, not so much because of the pictures but because of his lifts.

Some of the top pro's are lifting close to the weights he claims to lift. Now who believes that any of the pro's are natural?????????

The strength gains made from using steroids are way and above what anyone can do naturally.

So, sorry for raining on anyones picnic, but either he is lying about his lifts or he is using.
 
Hi guy's, fairly impressive phsyique, body fat estimate is wrong, more like 11-12%.
At 23 years of age to have this physique natural is highly unlikely, my guess is you are using gear bro, maybe not heavy androgens but I would say you use something and have done for some time, check my pics if you like on this board and make a comparison, these are possible lifts natural, but at your age I dont believe it.

prove me wrong bro, I'd like that. bbigman2000..:confused:
 
I dont think that you can draw that conclusion from those lifts especially as you dont know how he trains......there are plenty of drug free raw powerlifters that can out-do those lifts at a lighter bodyweight whilst under strict competition conditions.

I'm sure alot of people here tell little (or not so little) white lies to impress others.....I'll never understand people who have to make things up to impress others though. Whether he is natural or not doesnt really matter though does it?

madmitch said:
In my opinion - Not Natural, not so much because of the pictures but because of his lifts.

Some of the top pro's are lifting close to the weights he claims to lift. Now who believes that any of the pro's are natural?????????

The strength gains made from using steroids are way and above what anyone can do naturally.

So, sorry for raining on anyones picnic, but either he is lying about his lifts or he is using.
 
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You look pretty good bro. Don't mean to flame u but there is no way your at 8% BF. I would guess between 12%-15% I think with a strict diet and a little cardio u could defintely lean out and look like a ripped tank. Nice work though
 
Lifts don't mean alot really, as form is the issue in many cases. I mean we have all seen guys bench 405lbs with help and cliam the lift as genuine. personally, i don't see why this guys isn't natural. BTW, Rob you are nearer 12 to 13%bf. If you lost around 10 to 15lbs of fat you would look great.
 
yes, I agree that none of the above pictures are 8%bf... all above 11% for sure. Good work still... keep it up.
 
COME ON GUY'S

Really, why do you think 200 lb NATURAL powerlifters today are benchpressing what 300 lb Testosterone using powerlifters where benchpressing 20 - 30 years ago?

Better lifting techniques!!!!!!!
Better Training!!!!!!!!

Bollocks

I'll bet most of you guy's think that all the new Athletics records which are broken these days are done drug free. Remember, most of the records years ago were set by drug taking athletes.

The Olympics committee knows that the big crowds come to see records broken. Therefore they do what most other sports organisations do............. pick a few athletes to make scape goats of. Test them properly and when the tests come back positive, make a big media show of it. There look we kicked out the cheats so everyone else must be clean.

The prime example was the Chinese women's swimming team. All the bullshit reports claimed that the swimmers tested positive for Growth Hormone. Which is bollocks, since GH still can not be tested for. Olympic officials raided their rooms and found the GH in there bags.

One British scientist who told the Olympic commitee that given funding he could develop a test for GH in athletes was totally ignored.......hmmmm I wonder why.

I've talked to a few powerlifters who can bench around 400 - 500 lb's and although one or two swear to be drug free they are not, because the side effects of steroid use are visible in them.
 
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