Drug free bodybuilding my AAS!!!

[stosstruppe]

Wow those guys are doing some serious creatine / glucosamine cycles!

 

[the_alcatraz]

Wow those guys are doing some serious creatine / glucosamine cycles!

olololololololololo

 

[Tatyana]

Anything is possible my friend.

I was thinking about this while training today.

I have been using the training and/or training and diet protocol from two natties for the last 6+ months, and I have put on some serious size.

There are peeps that cheat and lie, but there are also people that figure out what works, and if you figure that out quite young, well, the gains would be awesome.

I suppose I see so many in the gym just going through the motions, and then wondering why they are not getting the results they want, or why they don't look like that awesome physique in the magazine.

I don't see many guys squatting or leg pressing what I do in the gym.

Everyone thinks/wishes it was easy, and its not.

People seem to accept differences in other areas, like physical attractiveness, intelligence, athletic ability, but the ability to build muscle, for some reason, those differences are harder to accept.

 

[the_alcatraz]

I was thinking about this while training today.

I have been using the training and/or training and diet protocol from two natties for the last 6+ months, and I have put on some serious size.

There are peeps that cheat and lie, but there are also people that figure out what works, and if you figure that out quite young, well, the gains would be awesome.

I suppose I see so many in the gym just going through the motions, and then wondering why they are not getting the results they want, or why they don't look like that awesome physique in the magazine.

I don't see many guys squatting or leg pressing what I do in the gym.

Everyone thinks/wishes it was easy, and its not.

People seem to accept differences in other areas, like physical attractiveness, intelligence, athletic ability, but the ability to build muscle, for some reason, those differences are harder to accept.

Genetics IS a BIG deal, but so is hard work and dedication. People want to get built, but are not willing to put in work...tsk, tsk, tsk

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

Dont we tell the young guns in the AAS side they have tons of natty test and to use it and eat at eat and train and you can pak on tons of muscle then once you plateua start juicing?

Is this not posible in your teens to get huge and ripped?

 

[the_alcatraz]

Dont we tell the young guns in the AAS side they have tons of natty test and to use it and eat at eat and train and you can pak on tons of muscle then once you plateua start juicing?

Is this not posible in your teens to get huge and ripped?

Yes it is possible. But to a certain extent. Within limits. You can't win competitions without juicing. At least I've never seen it. Have you seen the Ontario "natural" bbing contest. Huge and ripped guys pretend their natural, and I've seen that talk about their cycles in the gym...

 

[Tatyana]

Yes it is possible. But to a certain extent. Within limits. You can't win competitions without juicing. At least I've never seen it. Have you seen the Ontario "natural" bbing contest. Huge and ripped guys pretend their natural, and I've seen that talk about their cycles in the gym...

We all have seen the very tall and thin lads, you know the types, they were the rock'n roll gods in the 80s.

Think David Bowie when he was Ziggy Stardust.

Serious hardgainer.

A young man with that type of serious ectomorphic hardgainer physique is NOT going to get huge and ripped by the age of 20.

They will have to be a lot smarter about training, use different techniques, take more recovery time, really be great about the diet.


As for those that cheat in nattie comps, what absolute losers.

To think that winning a natural comp when you are juicing is just pathetic.

This issue is near and dear to me as I am a lifetime nattie and I am really cautious about what I put in my body, I don't even use extra strength cold and flu remedies as they have phenylephidrine in them.

The thing is, as a nattie female, I do have a lot of muscle, and I move a lot of weight, and my natural status has been questioned.

I suppose I am just glad I am female, as some of the changes from AAS are far more apparent in women.

I really don't get where the difficulty is, you either compete in gear feddies, or you stay clean for the amount of time you are meant to be clean for, or don't use at all and compete in a natural feddie.

How is that difficult?

 

[the_alcatraz]

We all have seen the very tall and thin lads, you know the types, they were the rock'n roll gods in the 80s.

Think David Bowie when he was Ziggy Stardust.

Serious hardgainer.

A young man with that type of serious ectomorphic hardgainer physique is NOT going to get huge and ripped by the age of 20.

They will have to be a lot smarter about training, use different techniques, take more recovery time, really be great about the diet.


As for those that cheat in nattie comps, what absolute losers.

To think that winning a natural comp when you are juicing is just pathetic.

This issue is near and dear to me as I am a lifetime nattie and I am really cautious about what I put in my body, I don't even use extra strength cold and flu remedies as they have phenylephidrine in them.

The thing is, as a nattie female, I do have a lot of muscle, and I move a lot of weight, and my natural status has been questioned.

I suppose I am just glad I am female, as some of the changes from AAS are far more apparent in women.

I really don't get where the difficulty is, you either compete in gear feddies, or you stay clean for the amount of time you are meant to be clean for, or don't use at all and compete in a natural feddie.

How is that difficult?

I how intelligent you are

I've done only 5 cycles my entire life, so I know exactly what you're sayin. I was a natty until I was 20. Then I started to experiment. Too young I think, but I liked the results.

 

[GUARDIAN]

the only one i would seriously suspect is the last one, mike ferrate

 

[the_alcatraz]

the only one i would seriously suspect is the last one, mike ferrate

no way he's that big, shredded, and vascular naturally!!! genetics my arse...i just watched it again...