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milo hobgoblin said:
In the nearly 20 years Ive been involved with fitness..

Ive seen a "few" guys like that who were natural. Its extremely rare.. but it is possible.

You are giving both of them too much credit.. neither one of them is that big.

They look pretty good for being all natty...but like Guardian said, I really doubt that last dude is natural
 
milo hobgoblin said:
In the nearly 20 years Ive been involved with fitness..

Ive seen a "few" guys like that who were natural. Its extremely rare.. but it is possible.

You are giving both of them too much credit.. neither one of them is that big.


I agree only the last one was really swolle!
 
milo hobgoblin said:
In the nearly 20 years Ive been involved with fitness..

Ive seen a "few" guys like that who were natural. Its extremely rare.. but it is possible.

You are giving both of them too much credit.. neither one of them is that big.

Very true, you would have to know how much they weigh, how tall they are.

I know quite a few natties, and I KNOW they are natties, but I don't live in the US either, different culture thing perhaps.

There is also the ILLUSION that someone looks massive when you are low bodyfat.

My coach looks juiced when he is dieted down (he gets bloody shredded), but he is only 160 lbs at 5'7" and has been competing for 20 years.

When I start to diet and get more definition, even though I am getting smaller, all the peeps around me say 'Oh you are getting bigger', even though I have explained this time and time again.
 
Tatyana said:
Very true, you would have to know how much they weigh, how tall they are.

I know quite a few natties, and I KNOW they are natties, but I don't live in the US either, different culture thing perhaps.

There is also the ILLUSION that someone looks massive when you are low bodyfat.

My coach looks juiced when he is dieted down (he gets bloody shredded), but he is only 160 lbs at 5'7" and has been competing for 20 years.

When I start to diet and get more definition, even though I am getting smaller, all the peeps around me say 'Oh you are getting bigger', even though I have explained this time and time again.


I hate whenever I'm trying to get bigger people will ask me if I lost weight or when I am dieting it's man your getting bigger! WTF? I think they do it just to mess with me!
 
Beachboy6294 said:
I hate whenever I'm trying to get bigger people will ask me if I lost weight or when I am dieting it's man your getting bigger! WTF? I think they do it just to mess with me!

That happens to me also sometimes. It psychologically fucks you up.
 
the_alcatraz said:
They look pretty good for being all natty...but like Guardian said, I really doubt that last dude is natural


Well I wasnt picking apart every guy.. but a few of the guys in that vid could very well be natural.

Cameras are very decieving.. especially when you dont have the context of average Joes standing around.





Think about this guys.. how many times have you seen some new guy in the gym and thought WOW that guy looks awesome.. then you go stand next to him and realize he looks like a smurf next to you?

Things like symmetry, bodyfat, muscle belly proportion make all the difference especially on camera..

Ive watched countless photo shoots and what Ive seen vs. what came out on the printed page were like night and day..
 
I don't have audio on this computer (I know its lame) so I'm trying to figure out what is going on in that video by watching it alone. All of the guys in that video are saying they are totally natural?

I believe in freaks of nature so that royal duke page guy or whatever could just be a freaker, a 1 in 100,000 lucky ultra ecto bastard or something. I agree anything is possible. However that last guy Michael or Mike or whatever, I don't believe he is natural. He has the fatty nips and just seems to geared up. Are all of the guys in the video teens??? I have to get audio this sucks.
 
Beachboy6294 said:
I hate whenever I'm trying to get bigger people will ask me if I lost weight or when I am dieting it's man your getting bigger! WTF? I think they do it just to mess with me!

No they aren't, it is what it looks like to most people.

Cut = big

Smooth = smaller

Except when you are completely covered up.

225lb = lad looks smooth and small

200 lb = lad looks big and ripped

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