thanks for replies, I haven't seen the rack yet but he paid something like 500+ bucks for it and said it is a good one, hasn't been delivered yet will let you know what it is exactly, the bar didn't hit his nose, we figured out it was my thumb that smacked him when I grabbed it and he turned his head, he thinks it was the double denim Inzer shirt that caused the bar to ride up and get him out of groove he didn't actually drop it just couldn't push it up