I've been taking milk thistle and some prov, but by the time 4 pm rolls around I start feeling it bad.slat1 said:One of the mods posted about a milk thystle product that worked to correct that. I am assuming you are speaking of dbol back pumps. I can't remember the mod or the product. Hopefully someone else will remember.
I have gotten them in the past... Hate them!
Oh, I forgot to mention strength and size are awsome. My wife keeps saying how good I look. If only I could walk after 4 PMslat1 said:I know what you are talking about. I used to get them bad years ago when I did dbol. I haven't used it in a while though. I have degenerative disk disease. I will tell you this. When I fuck up my back it swells a bit and its hard to move. Its like having a dbol pump 24 hours a day. You feel like your 80. I don't miss that... I do miss the quick 20 lbs I put on with 20mgs a day of that stuff though!!! he he...
pudding said:Oh, I forgot to mention strength and size are awsome. My wife keeps saying how good I look. If only I could walk after 4 PM

slat1 said:One of the mods posted about a milk thystle product that worked to correct that. I am assuming you are speaking of dbol back pumps. I can't remember the mod or the product. Hopefully someone else will remember.
I have gotten them in the past... Hate them!
IvanOffelitch said:RADAR recommended Lindberg Milk Thistle to help with this.
Thanks guysIvanOffelitch said:RADAR recommended Lindberg Milk Thistle to help with this.
I already ordered itSteve The Bluesman said:Brutal. I am constantly doing lower back stretches during the day at work to try and loosen it up.
But in the gym, forget it. After just one set of squats, everything after that I have to sit down for a minute to relax the lower back.
I have to get some of that Limburger stuff for the next cycle.
Bluesman
romoranger said:does that work even if not on dbol? i get lower back pumps from everything especailly when i am playing hockey. really kills me there, can't get low
I know what you mean, Try some prov, (50 mg) it seems to be helping. Also keeping bloat down I think. First time dbol so have no comparison except for what I read people posting.babbabuee said:I'm gonna be runnin dbol at low doses this upcoming cycle, but if the pumps get as bad as they have in the past, I'm stopping the dbol. that shit just makes it impossible to get a good workout.
Just got up to go workout. I once again added the prov,nolva, & m thistle. I will know by late this afternoon if it helped again. Keep you guys postedbabbabuee said:I'll be using milk thistle, proviron and nolva during the dbol stage for sure.
martin uk said:Hear hear. I always kickstart for the 1st 4 weeks of every cycle but end up dropping after less than 3.
Trying doing bent over rows impossible, feel like an invalid
Try throwing around packed bails of hay for a while with the pumps. I was inventing new ways to do it. I hope the higher dose of prov works for you. Again I not quite sure of the scientific reason behind it, but the 50mg prov along with nolv seem to be making a difference. The pumps are still there, but they are tolerable.Steve The Bluesman said:Word to that.
I dropped bent over rows last week...doing one arms BD rows with one knee on the bench instead.
Pudding, I am thinking I am going to up the prov to 50mg as well. 25mf isn't doing shit.
Bluesman
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