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Dposey's Rippetoe Journal

Dposey

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Hey everyone.

I've decided to create a journal to help keep track of my progress on Rippetoe's beginner's lifting program.

Stats: Age 18, 6', 177 pounds, 20% BF

Background: I've been lifting for around 4 months, most of it being done incorrectly. I just recently came off of a 4-day split that, while I felt helped me get accustomed to the major lifts, didn't really do much. I wasn't feeling like I was making much progress by doing each body part only once a week. That's why I'm using this program which was recommended to me by a few members and that I've read a lot about afterwards. Once I stop progressing I'll take a week to recover (Still lifting, but light) and then I'll transition into the SF 5x5.

Goals: I want to gain strength and muscle mass while at the same time keeping my body fat in check. 20% (Possibly 18%, it was taken with calipers and I have a lot of loose skin from previous weight loss) is a little high and if I can lower it while simultaneously building muscle that would be great. For this reason I'm going to be doing light cardio 2-3 days a week for 10-20 minutes at a time. I'll be joining the Air Force in the summer and I want to use all the time before that to gain as much strength/muscle as I can while keeping below the weight limit (197) to enlist. After I get out of basic training and into a routine I'll jump right back into it.

Diet: This is where the program will differ the most. I'm not the 140 pound kid the program is geared towards and I won't be eating as such. I will be taking in around 3200 calories a day, with tons of protein and fats kept under 100g. It's a clean diet consisting mostly of oatmeal, chicken, milk, eggs, cottage cheese, peanut butter, small amounts of bread and wheat rice, and whey protein. I also take multi-vitamins daily. If I see that I'm losing weight or stalling then I'll toss in a couple more eggs/glasses of milk/scoops of peanut butter here and there.

Program:

Workout A

3x5 Squat
3x5 Bench Press
1x5 Deadlift/Power Clean 5x3,alternate every workout ''A''

Workout B

3x5 Squat
3x5 Military Press
3x5 Chinups
3x8 Weighted hyperextensions/ Good mornings

For major lifts I'll try to add weight every workout, and I'll warm-up using 5 sets of light weight, working up to the work sets. For chin-ups I'll be using the assistance machine because I can't do them yet on my own. I'll also be adding in abwork on Mondays/Wednesdays and direct armwork on Fridays. All weight will be in pounds.

Tuesdays/Thursdays will be light cardio days, and Saturdays might be used for working on my grip and a little interval training. If this proves to be too taxing then I'll tone it down a bit. These are just some things I'll want to be doing in the SF 5x5 so I'm going to start them out now. Ok, enough rambling, to the first workout!

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Monday 2/13/06 - Week One - Day One
Workout A (Deadlift)

Squats:
Bar x Warm-up x 2
95 x 5
115 x 3
130 x 2
145 x 5
145 x 5
145 x 5
Got them all fairly easy.

Bench Press:
Bar x Warm-up x 2
85 x 5
100 x 3
115 x 2
125 x 5
125 x 5
125 x 5
These were a little harder than I had anticipated, but still went well.

Deadlift:
Bar x Warm-up x 2
95 x 5
105 x 3
120 x 2
135 x 5
These were awesome! Really got the form down. I felt the contraction of my glutes/hamstrings and I knew I had it. They just felt right.

Accessories:
3 sets of abwork

Comments:
The first workout went very well. I started with weight that was roughly 10% less than my estimated 5RM, and I really focused on my form. I went deep on squats and deadlift form was great. Bench form needs a little improvement as sometimes I feel unbalanced. I'm going to focus more next time on keeping my shoulder blades together and slightly arching my back. I was a little tired because I only got a little less sleep than usual (7 hours vs. 8-9) and I had PE today. After the break we'll probably start swimming so I won't have to worry about running the mile affecting my lifting. I also did some high intensity interval training yesterday as well as a little shoulders, and I think it affected my bench. No more of that, I'm only doing interval training on Saturday so I'll have a full two days of rest before lifting. Other than that, real good workout, I hope I can stay on this for at least a month or two!
 
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nice work out dude.. what are your goals.. in terms of how much weight do u wanna be at at a certain time period.. by that i mean gaining lean weight not fat.. and post your goals on the big three(squat bench dead)..

this program is very suitable for u.. u look like u have a lot ahead of u too.. so remember they key is to eat big and lift big to get big.. good luck.. i'll be interested to see how this works for u instead of me.. i think you'll be able to gain more than me..
 
My short-term goal is to get to around 190/195 pounds this summer with no more than 15% BF. Eventually (Way in the future) I want the same 400+ bench and 500+ squat/dead that everyone else wants, but I'd be happy with a 200+ bench and 300+ squat/dead by the end of the year. It's going to take a lot of work, but I'm learning more every day and I'm up for the challenge.

Thanks for the suggestions and the encouragement carlsuen! I'll definitely try to eat big, I'm going to be monitoring my weight every week to make sure I don't go into caloric deficit. I read your Rippetoe journal and it looks like you had a good run but, like me, you started off at a high weight and didn't make as much progress as the raw beginner would. I'm thinking that I might be able to stay on a little longer than you, but no more than a couple months. We'll see though, maybe I'll be able to keep up with the increases longer. Can't wait for that 5x5 anyway. By the way, good luck with yours! :D
 
dude.. your weights are not at all high.. u have at least another 2-3 months before you start stalling..

say how much weight do u intend to increase everywork out? 5lbs? 2.5?
 
Gonna try to increase all the major lifts by 5 pounds every workout. Once that starts to become harder (Especially for bench/push press) I'll start to increase by 2.5 pounds. I'm going to make some of those 1.25 pound chain weights for each side when I get the chance to go to Home Depot.

Oh, and I didn't mean that my weights were high, but rather that my body weight is high compared to 140 pounds, I should have worded it differently. My weights are pretty damn low, so hopefully you're right and I'll have a good 2-3 months of increases. That's the plan!
 
IMO you are starting this program PERFECTLY. I am very excited to see what happens.

A guy on another forum started this program but quit in two weeks - I was very dissappointed by his lack of attention span :rolleyes: .
 
Thanks guys, and a quick question on push presses for Wednesday's workout. I'm going to start them at 70 pounds (Light I know, I think my 5RM at the moment would be 80 pounds. Gotta build them shoulders up!). Should I go bar x 5 x 2, 50 x 5, 55 x 3, 60 x 2, and then 70 x 5 for the three work sets? Or should I drop a couple of the warm-up sets/reps? Let me know your opinion. Really psyched about this!
 
Nice to see you get this under way,you seem to have a good grasp of the program and your goals in general.I am in the same situation as you in regards to body composition,want to get stronger/bigger but already at a highish bodyfat with not much room to bulk.Just give it time and the fat will decrease in time with a good diet and decent lifting program.In regards to your query on warm-ups I would do about 2-3sets before the worksets and leave it at that,but thats just my opinion.

Good luck,I will see how this goes :)
 
Thanks! I'll take that into account. If I start getting fatigued I might just do one warm-up set with the bar, followed by a set of 3 and then a set of 2. 5 warm-up sets does seem a bit much to me, but I wanted to follow the program as close as possible. We'll see what happens.

Also, just got a PM from Mr. X and got a stamp of approval on my diet. Yay!
 
Tuesday 2/14/06 - Week 1
Cardio

Treadmill:
20 minutes at 3.5 mph/10.0 incline. Followed by light stretching.

Comments:
Kept my heart rate at around 110. This was a nice, easy cardio session.
 
Good work. Try scrapping one or two of those worksets unless you think you really need it. No need to waste energy and time. Also, post up that diet that got approval from Mr. X. I'd be interested in seeing it.
 
Thanks! I think I may drop down to just 3 warm-up sets (I assume you meant warm-up not worksets right?) to decrease fatigue. I'll test it tomorrow and see how it goes.

The diet isn't anything special but it's the best I can do with school, budget limits, transportation limits, etc. Mr. X recommends less milk and more chicken, I think my pre/post-workout shakes are the only ones in need of work. Here it is:

Breakfast - 7:30 AM
1 Cup Cereal (Might scrap cereal and just do 2 packets of oatmeal. Lots of sugar here.)
1/2 Cup Milk
1 Packet Oatmeal
2 Eggs
2 Egg Whites

Snack - 10:00 AM
1 Optimum Nutrition Protein Bar

Lunch - 12:30 PM
1 Chicken Breast
1 Slice Bread
1 Ounce Mozerella Cheese
1 Can Green Beans (I drain the can of water and then rinse them to get as much sodium out as possible)

Pre-Workout - 3:00 PM
1 Scoop Whey Protein
1 Cup Milk (Usually 1%, sometimes 2%)
1 Tbsp. Peanut Butter

Post-Workout - 5:30 PM
2 Scoops Whey Protein <--- (Might be too much...)
1/2 Cup Oats (Blended with ice in 12 oz. water)

Dinner - 6:30 PM
1 Chicken Breast
1/2 Cup Wheat Rice
1 Can Green Beans

Late Snack - 9:00 PM
1 Serving Cottage Cheese
2 Tbsp. Peanut Butter
1 Cup Milk (Might get rid of this, or change to a couple eggs)

Altogether it's roughly 3200 calories, 72g fat, 300+ carbs and 290g protein (Yikes!). Hopefully that's not TOO much protein. I'm going to be following this diet every day regardless of whether I'm lifting or not because of doing cardio 3x per week. On Sundays I always do SOMETHING anyway, even if it's a short bike ride. I'm pretty happy with the diet for now. What do you guys think?
 
Dposey said:
Thanks! I think I may drop down to just 3 warm-up sets (I assume you meant warm-up not worksets right?) to decrease fatigue. I'll test it tomorrow and see how it goes.

The diet isn't anything special but it's the best I can do with school, budget limits, transportation limits, etc. Mr. X recommends less milk and more chicken, I think my pre/post-workout shakes are the only ones in need of work. Here it is:

Breakfast - 7:30 AM
1 Cup Cereal (Might scrap cereal and just do 2 packets of oatmeal. Lots of sugar here.)
1/2 Cup Milk
1 Packet Oatmeal
2 Eggs
2 Egg Whites

Snack - 10:00 AM
1 Optimum Nutrition Protein Bar

Lunch - 12:30 PM
1 Chicken Breast
1 Slice Bread
1 Ounce Mozerella Cheese
1 Can Green Beans (I drain the can of water and then rinse them to get as much sodium out as possible)

Pre-Workout - 3:00 PM
1 Scoop Whey Protein
1 Cup Milk (Usually 1%, sometimes 2%)
1 Tbsp. Peanut Butter

Post-Workout - 5:30 PM
2 Scoops Whey Protein <--- (Might be too much...)
1/2 Cup Oats (Blended with ice in 12 oz. water)

Dinner - 6:30 PM
1 Chicken Breast
1/2 Cup Wheat Rice
1 Can Green Beans

Late Snack - 9:00 PM
1 Serving Cottage Cheese
2 Tbsp. Peanut Butter
1 Cup Milk (Might get rid of this, or change to a couple eggs)

Altogether it's roughly 3200 calories, 72g fat, 300+ carbs and 290g protein (Yikes!). Hopefully that's not TOO much protein. I'm going to be following this diet every day regardless of whether I'm lifting or not because of doing cardio 3x per week. On Sundays I always do SOMETHING anyway, even if it's a short bike ride. I'm pretty happy with the diet for now. What do you guys think?

Diet looks pretty good overall,as long as it stays reasonably clean you shouldnt have much trouble as long as you stick to it and workout hard.Nothng with milk IMO, it is cheap,provides lots of protein and a good ratio of nutrients.
 
Some sugar isn't gonna kill you. Not much saturated fat there, either. Sat. fats have been shown to help with optimal test production. Fats in general. Get some fish oils in there for your EPA/DHA. Throw in some spinach (very nutrient dense). Add in a bit of red meat.

I never much liked Mr. X. Less milk more chicken? Your protein intake looks fine. There's no reason to add more fucking chicken. Calories are what matter, not how clean the damn food is. People don't get past this, do they? Get the stuff you need:

A) Protein
B) EFAs
C) Vitamins/Minerals (veggies & fruits)

The rest is fucking details. Milk, chicken - who gives a shit? Do what is conveinent. You also don't need that many meals - four larger meals will work just as well, maybe better. People are stuck on this "eating every three hours" bullshit. God.

Sorry for the rant, not directed at you, just venting.
 
Well I want to eat fairly clean because, like I said, I'm trying not to gain any more BF%. But thanks for the comments guys, I think I'll stick with the diet and see how it goes.
 
Dposey said:
Well I want to eat fairly clean because, like I said, I'm trying not to gain any more BF%. But thanks for the comments guys, I think I'll stick with the diet and see how it goes.

You're going to gain more bodyfat from excess calories, not from having unclean foods. If you need 3000 calories to maintain weight and you eat 2,500, even in chocolate cake, you're gonna lose weight. If you eat over 3,000 with all the cleanest foods in the world, you'll gain weight.

Thermodynamics are beautiful.
 
lol at the thought of a cutting diet based on chocolate cake.

Good luck Dposey. It's good to see someone journalling the Rippetoe based program.
 
anotherbutters said:
lol at the thought of a cutting diet based on chocolate cake.

Good luck Dposey. It's good to see someone journalling the Rippetoe based program.

I actually dropped bodyfat while eating fast food and chocolate cake for about a month a few weeks ago. I stopped eating healthy (depressed, lost appetite) and ate sporadically, staying up all night several times a week.

Funny, I ate cake, cookies, Taco Bell and guess what? I now have a six-pack. Hmm...:rolleyes:
 
Anthrax Invasion said:
Some sugar isn't gonna kill you. Not much saturated fat there, either. Sat. fats have been shown to help with optimal test production. Fats in general. Get some fish oils in there for your EPA/DHA. Throw in some spinach (very nutrient dense). Add in a bit of red meat.

I never much liked Mr. X. Less milk more chicken? Your protein intake looks fine. There's no reason to add more fucking chicken. Calories are what matter, not how clean the damn food is. People don't get past this, do they? Get the stuff you need:

A) Protein
B) EFAs
C) Vitamins/Minerals (veggies & fruits)

The rest is fucking details. Milk, chicken - who gives a shit? Do what is conveinent. You also don't need that many meals - four larger meals will work just as well, maybe better. People are stuck on this "eating every three hours" bullshit. God.

Sorry for the rant, not directed at you, just venting.

I eat clean because I don't want to suffer a heart attack and stroke and caused loved ones pain when I'm not around because I felt like a double cheeseburger and fries instead of rice, brocolli and chicken.
 
psychedout said:
I eat clean because I don't want to suffer a heart attack and stroke and caused loved ones pain when I'm not around because I felt like a double cheeseburger and fries instead of rice, brocolli and chicken.

I never said there weren't other reasons to eat clean, but you're making an extreme comparison there. If he uses milk instead of chicken, do you really think he's going to pass away any earlier? Even fast food once in awhile won't hurt. Why? 'cause the body is very resiliant and forgiving, especially in our younger days. I'm with you for the most part. I tend to eat healthy. He's doing more harm by not including fish oil than he would by having more milk and less chicken.
 
Anthrax Invasion said:
I never said there weren't other reasons to eat clean, but you're making an extreme comparison there. If he uses milk instead of chicken, do you really think he's going to pass away any earlier? Even fast food once in awhile won't hurt. Why? 'cause the body is very resiliant and forgiving, especially in our younger days. I'm with you for the most part. I tend to eat healthy. He's doing more harm by not including fish oil than he would by having more milk and less chicken.

Point taken and agreed. How much fish oil do you get daily? I think I am getting 480 mg of EPA and 360mg of DHA in the form of caps. Plus I eat organic flax bread often and eat salmon maybe 5 times a month. Think I got my omega 3 all in line?
 
Wednesday 2/15/06 - Week 1 - Day 2
Workout B

Squats:
Bar x Warm-up
95 x 5
115 x 3
135 x 2
150 x 5
150 x 5
150 x 5
Squats went really well once again, I love doing them now that I make sure that they're full squats.

Push Press:
Bar x Warm-up
55 x 3
65 x 2
75 x 5
75 x 5
75 x 5
These were so easy!

Assisted Chin-ups:
BW-70 x 5
BW-70 x 5
BW-70 x 5
I have to do these on an assistance machine until I build up to using my own body weight. They were hard but I kept a good grip, wider than my shoulders, and squeezed my lats together at the top. I'm looking forward to improving these.

Weighted Hyperextensions:
BW+30 x 8
BW+30 x 8
BW+30 x 8
I do these 45 degrees, holding a dumbbell to my chest. Felt good as always; felt them in my lower back, hamstrings, and glutes.

Accessories:
Cable Crunches:
40 x 15
50 x 12
50 x 12
Leg Raises:
BW x 6 (Hanging)
BW x 12 (Supported)
BW x 12 (Supported)

Comments:
Another awesome workout! The squats went great and were fairly easy, same with push press. Chin-ups were hard and I'm really looking forward to the point where I can do them unassisted. I also tried some new ab exercises today, and they went ok, but I really didn't feel too much despite squeezing my abs tightly with each rep. I liked the hanging leg raises but I couldn't keep my grip past 6 reps. I'll have to experiment with abs and see what works best for me.
 
Nice to see that you are going nice and low on your squats,the weights will fly up in the next few months as you adjust to them.Dont worry too much about the ab exercises as they are a very minor component of programs such as this.
 
Thanks asdfzxcv. I really want to nail the squat and I'm looking forward to getting it up there. And yeah, I'm not sweating the ab exercises much. I just wanted to try something different, but if I don't like them I'll just go back to crunches, weighted sit-ups, etc. Just something to play around with. :)
 
psychedout said:
Point taken and agreed. How much fish oil do you get daily? I think I am getting 480 mg of EPA and 360mg of DHA in the form of caps. Plus I eat organic flax bread often and eat salmon maybe 5 times a month. Think I got my omega 3 all in line?

Sounds just fine. I'd take 6 regular fish oil caps. By regular I mean 1,000 mg of fish oil each (180 EPA/120 DHA). That's 6 grams a day - perfect. More is not better with fish oil. Can cause some problems. Going slightly over won't be problematic, but people will think 6 is good, so they'll go for 12 grams and up - bad idea.

Salmon + flax bread - good stuff there. Have a salmon sandwich on the bread. ;)

Oh, make sure the caps are USP certified. Any brand will do if it's USP.
 
Some thing to think about:

Glenn Pendlay said:
the EASIEST method we use for squats, and the one which rip used for beginners, is a simple pyramid program, the weights are pyramided BOTH monday and friday... and another leg exercise is used for wednesday, usually front squats for the young and athletically minded, sometimes leg press for the old and feeble.
 
Thanks dave, that's something I'll definitely think about. I'd have to learn how to do them correctly first of course.
 
Dposey said:
Thanks dave, that's something I'll definitely think about. I'd have to learn how to do them correctly first of course.

I think he mentions somewhere about doing "lighter" squat or front squats. He says (maybe it was Rippetoe) that it takes about the same amount of time to recover from light squats as it would front squats. Question is, what would be considered light? I'll try and find it for you.
 
''Light'' back squats are about 70-80% of a persons 5rep max for this program,which means the weight used would be about the same as heavy front squats.Honestly I would just stick with the original template before trying to fuck around with it too much,but if you must substitute just go for the front squats as they are a far better option then the leg press.If you wanted to add them in just substitute them in either workout A or B so you can alternate them each workout.
 
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Think I'm just going to stick to the program while it's working, but thanks anyway dave for the find. I may consider front squats later on when I run a SF 5x5 on Wednesdays; we'll see what happens.
 
Rippetoe's beginner program will work fine. If posey is truly a beginner, then he should be able to squat progressively heavier 3x a week without issues, provided he's using proper form. Rip throws them onto an Upper/Lower 2x a week split (similar to WSB) after they finish the beginner program. Just ask him.
 
dposey.. the rippetoe program is meant for u to be able to add weight every time u go in to the gym.. so son't change the exercises first.. try to get used to them and put on some serious weight on them.. but with good form of course.. listen to asdfzxcv and AI..
 
Don't worry I never planned on changing anything, just said that I would read into front squats later on. Thanks for the concern though everyone, I'm glad people don't want me steered in the wrong direction.
 
Dposey said:
Don't worry I never planned on changing anything, just said that I would read into front squats later on. Thanks for the concern though everyone, I'm glad people don't want me steered in the wrong direction.

Yeah, some good people here. You're in good hands. I've been here since I was, what, 14? Been such a help for a long time. I just miss some of the old-time bros (Suston, Louden, Debaser, Bfold [still posts, not as often] - fuck, anyone remember Jeremys!?).

Front squats kick ass, and are great to get used to if you plan to olylift. Great anyway, really. Those and overhead squats. They're challening and it's nice for variety. 'tis the spice of life, ya' know.
 
Anthrax Invasion said:
Rippetoe's beginner program will work fine. If posey is truly a beginner, then he should be able to squat progressively heavier 3x a week without issues, provided he's using proper form. Rip throws them onto an Upper/Lower 2x a week split (similar to WSB) after they finish the beginner program. Just ask him.

How are we supposed to ask him? Do you have any samples?
 
Thursday 2/16/06 - Week 1
Cardio

Calisthenics:
Light stretching followed by 20 minutes of calisthenics indoors. Jumping jacks, running in place, squat thrusts, etc.

Comments:
Had to go to the DMV today (Which took forever) as well as take my aunt to the doctor for an eye appointment. Didn't have time to go to the gym and it was cold as hell outside so I did some indoor stuff. Pretty fun, reminded me of PE back in middle school. :p
 
imdave0182 said:
How are we supposed to ask him? Do you have any samples?

E-mail him. I have his AIM contact and phone number. I've spoken to him several times via phone. Go to his website, send him an e-mail, he'll likely respond back telling you to call him or something of that nature - he doesn't like typing a lot.
 
Wouldn´t it be possible, to see the Upper/Lower 2x a week split (similar to WSB) now, from someone who has got it already? I think, when you post his beginner program, which is in his book, not for free, then you could also post his upper lower body training.
 
I don't have the specific layout. I don't think there's much to it, aside from the fact that the ME days are done with sets of 5 (not sure how many). The other day mimics WSB pretty much exactly - speed work. This is the last I heard about it from him. I can IM him some time soon and ask for a layout, but I'm lazy.
 
Friday 2/17/06 - Week 1 - Day 3 -
Workout A (Power Clean)

Squats:
Bar x Warm-up
95 x 5
115 x 3
135 x 2
155 x 5
155 x 5
155 x 5
Man, these were pretty hard! A grind to the top, but I got them all with deep form.

Bench Press:
Bar x Warm-up
95 x 5
115 x 3
130 x 5
130 x 5
130 x 5
Bench went great today. I definitely got the form down.

Power Clean:
Bar x Warm-up
Bar x Warm-up
65 x 3
65 x 3
65 x 3
65 x 3
65 x 3
I'm new to Power Cleans so I started out light to make sure I got the form down. Man, these are difficult! One of the personal trainers came over and helped me a little bit on my form. Now, I'm wary of PTs because I've seen some of them give bad advice in the past (Didn't know it was bad advice at the time) so I want to double-check with you guys first. I started with the bar on the ground, pretty much deadlifted up until my knees, and then exploded up pulling with my upper back. Now, the PT told me that the little hop you do when you catch the bar in the 1/4 squat position isn't really necessary. He says that it's used in olympic weightlifting. He told me to do exactly as I was doing to the knees, explode up, and then at the top when you roll your wrists and catch the bar to just go down into the squat position instead of doing the little hop. Is this good advice, or bad? I want to make sure I'm doing Power Cleans correctly before preceding any further with them.

Accessories:
Assisted Dips:
BW-30 x 8
BW-30 x 8
BW-30 x 7 (Arms were spent and couldn't get the 8th)
DB Hammer Curls:
25s x 8
25s x 8
25s x 8

Comments:
Today's workout was great despite all the bad luck I was having. It was raining so I had to get a ride rather than ride my bike and I got there 30 minutes later than usual. I had to wait for a curler to leave before I could do my squats, had to wait 10 minutes for a bench, then had to wait around after bench to even get a BAR for the Power Cleans. Eventually I got one after a curler was finished with his 5th set on the squat rack. Squats were hard, but I got them and I don't see them stalling Monday when I'm better rested. Bench went great and hopefully I was doing Power Cleans correctly. A couple things I want to mention are that I might reconsider doing direct armwork on Fridays in addition to adding weight to the bar every day. My arms were dead when I went to do dips. I think I'll just do some abs instead to make it 3x/week for abs and just let the compound lifts work my arms, which they certainly have been. Another thing is that I've dropped a couple pounds down to 174 since Sunday. This is weird because I've been eating a lot. I wonder if it's just water weight or should I consider eating a bit more? Hmm. :chomp:
 
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From the sounds of it the PT was showing you how to do full cleans,also known as a squat clean.Since you are new it is probably better to learn a full clean first then switch to power cleans as lots of people learn the power clean first then have trouble learning full clean technique later.The only issue I can think with full cleans is in the future when the poundages of your cleans and squats increase,you may need to use power cleans as they are less taxing on the musclature of the legs which are already squatting 3times a week.

So far you are on the right track and are making excellent progress,keep it up :)
 
Ok, thanks asdfzxcv. I'm glad that I got those down then. When I do have to switch to power cleans later on, it's basically the same thing only you're only squatting down about 1/4 of the way correct?
 
Dposey said:
Ok, thanks asdfzxcv. I'm glad that I got those down then. When I do have to switch to power cleans later on, it's basically the same thing only you're only squatting down about 1/4 of the way correct?

Correct
 
Saturday 2/18/06 - Week 1
Grip/Cardio

Farmer's Walk:
60s x 60 seconds
60s x 55 seconds

Static Hold:
155 x 30 seconds
155 x 25 seconds

Treadmill:
3 minutes warm-up, then 15 minutes of HIIT, followed by a 3 minute cooldown.

Comments:
Did a little gripwork today, it was pretty fun. I definitely got a great cardio workout with the HIIT. Hopefully not too much...Still down to 175. I think I'm going to up my calorie intake.
 
Anthrax Invasion said:
You're going to gain more bodyfat from excess calories, not from having unclean foods. If you need 3000 calories to maintain weight and you eat 2,500, even in chocolate cake, you're gonna lose weight. If you eat over 3,000 with all the cleanest foods in the world, you'll gain weight.

Thermodynamics are beautiful.

this is such a general statement, and i would beg to differ...

combining foods properly can allow you to have caloric surplus and STILL lose some BF...
 
High Intensity Interval Training. Basically I do a brisk walk/jog for 1-2 minutes, then sprint for 30-45 seconds, rinse, repeat.
 
DZLS said:
this is such a general statement, and i would beg to differ...

combining foods properly can allow you to have caloric surplus and STILL lose some BF...

Then you need to brush up on this stuff a bit.
 
Monday 2/20/06 - Week 2 - Day 1
Workout B

Squats:
Bar x Warm-up
95 x 5
135 x 3
160 x 5
160 x 5
160 x 5
These were hard but they're still climbing steadily at +5 pounds a workout.

Push Press:
Bar x Warm-up
65 x 3
80 x 5
80 x 5
80 x 5
Piece of cake, these flew up.

Assisted Chin-ups:
BW-60 x 5
BW-60 x 5
BW-60 x 5
Man these are hard! I'm 10 pounds closer to using my own body weight.

Weighted Hyperextensions:
32.5 x 8
32.5 x 8
32.5 x 8
Easier than usual today, felt good as always.

Accessories:
Needsize Crunches:
BW x 8
BW+15 x 5
BW+15 x 5
BW+15 x 5
BW+15 x 5

Comments:
Great workout today! I wasn't feeling too good about the squats because I've been coming down with a sore throat and didn't feel 100% today, but I was able to add another 5 pounds without a problem. Push presses were damn easy, but I'm going to keep with 5 pound increases and not get too greedy. I also tried the needsize crunches today, and I must say they were easier than expected. Hopefully I did them right; I didn't have a mirror to check and make sure my torso was parallel to the floor. I'm pretty sure it was though. Think I'm going to add more weight next time as 15 was fairly easy.
 
Wednesday 2/22/06 - Week 2 - Day 2
Workout A (Deadlift)

Squats:
Bar x Warm-up
95 x 5
135 x 3
165 x 5
165 x 5
165 x 5
These were a grind to the top, they were VERY hard. My back started to give a little on one or two of the reps. I did get them all though and I'm pretty positive that I went low enough.

Bench Press:
Bar x Warm-up
95 x 3
115 x 2
135 x 5
135 x 5
135 x 5
These were hard too but I feel good about them. The bar I had to use wasn't the best, it wasn't what I'm used to and the awkwardness probably made it seem harder than it was.

Deadlift:
Bar x Warm-up
95 x 5
115 x 3
145 x 5
These were pretty damn easy. Form was good; my chest and hips went up at the same time. I kept my back from rounding too.

Needsize Crunches:
BW+20 x 5 x 5
These felt great, they were so hard! Big difference from Monday.

Comments:
Today was an ok workout. I was talking with recruiters for the better part of the day and didn't get to the gym until late in the day. I also hadn't eaten much and felt exhausted the whole workout. The squats were so hard...I'm not sure whether to continue with 170 on Friday or do 165 over again. I'm thinking that the reason the squats were so hard is because I was so tired. Any suggestions?
 
Dposey said:
Wednesday 2/22/06 - Week 2 - Day 2
Any suggestions?

Prevent stalling. Do a 2:1 ratio of squats:front squats. If not, then play it safe and go for 165 again. Don't risk injury and get greedy.
 
Friday 2/24/06 - Week 2 - Day 3
Workout B

Squats:
Bar x Warm-up
95 x 5
135 x 3
170 x 5
170 x 5
170 x 5
These were very, VERY difficult. Every rep from 3 on was a grind to the top. I did get them, but I wouldn't doubt that my form took a hit on the final rep of one or two sets. I'm going to do 170 again on Monday, and depending on how that goes I might start only increasing by 2.5 pounds or doing lighter squats on Wednesday and just increasing on Mon/Fri.

Push Press:
Bar x Warm-up
65 x 3
85 x 5
85 x 5
85 x 5
Not easy, but not difficult.

Assisted Chin-ups:
BW-60 x 5
BW-60 x 5
BW-60 x 5
These were a little easier than Monday, plus I went down to more of a hang position than usual after each rep (Arms almost fully extended). Before doing my Hypers I also tried to do a pull-up with no assistance, just for shits and giggles. To my surprise I was almost able to! These are getting better.

Weighted Hyperextensions:
BW+35 x 8
BW+35 x 8
BW+35 x 8

Bicep Curls:
60 x 8
60 x 8
60 x 8

Tricep Extensions:
50 x 8
50 x 8
50 x 8

Comments:
The squats are getting hard, really hard. I think increasing them every time by 5 pounds is going to be rough with the weight they're at. I might try just doing 2.5 poinds each time if I feel good about how the redo of 170 goes on Monday. Besides that, everything seems to be coming along nicely. My Push Press is getting much better, as are my pull-ups.

Now, here's another issue I'd like to bring up. I was off from school this whole week so I spent that time going to different recruiters, because as I stated I plan on joining the military after high school. I've ruled out Army for obvious reasons, and I'm not getting a good vibe from the Marines, so I've pretty much narrowed it down to Air Force and Navy. I'm leaning towards Navy because they're offering me jobs with enlistment bonuses and accelerated ranks, while the Air Force isn't. Either way I'll have to do a good bit of running in their respective basic training camps. I've decided, in preparation, to start distance running and push-ups/sit-ups/calisthenics on Tuesdays/Wednesdays/Sundays. I need to be able to make good time on the 1.5/2 mile timed runs. I know that this isn't very good for getting big, but after basic training I'll revamp my cardio to include mostly interval training. Another thing is I think this will be good for getting my body fat down a bit. Once I'm out of BMT and onto tech school I should be able to hit the gym again, start doing some 5x5s, etc. I'm still going to run this program until I completely stall and then run a 5x5 after that, and the running won't be too much hopefully. Only 30 minutes of cardio, 40 at the most, so it shouldn't be too bad. I'm surprised how bad my push-ups have got, I used to do them all the time and was able to do 35 straight or so and now I'm down to about 20. Oh well, practice makes perfect. :)
 
Monday 2/27/06 - Week 3 - Day 1
Workout A (Power Clean)

Squats:
Bar x Warm-up
95 x 5
135 x 3
170 x 5
170 x 5
170 x 5
Not as hard as last time, but still pretty damn hard. I'm positive that my back arched a bit on the last rep.

Bench Press:
Bar x Warm-up
95 x 5
115 x 3
140 x 5
140 x 5
140 x 5
Got them all fairly easily.

Power Clean:
Bar x Warm-up x 2 (Hang)
95 x 3
95 x 3
95 x 3
95 x 3
95 x 3
These went well, I'm pretty sure I got the form down. My traps are hella sore.

Needsize Crunches:
BW+20 x 5
BW+20 x 5
BW+20 x 5
BW+20 x 5
BW+20 x 5

Comments:
This was a pretty good workout. I'm now in week three of the program and everything seems to be progressing except the squats. I'm up a pound to 179 since starting, but I have been eating around maintenance level at 3200 calories a day. My bench, push press, deadlifts, pull-ups, and power cleans are all going well. The squat is the thing giving me problems. I drop down into that hole and a lot of the time it's a fight to get up without compromising my form. Any suggestions? Should I switch to front squats or lighter back squats on Wednesday? Should I reset? Trying to do this program as intended but getting all 15 reps at 175 isn't looking likely on Wednesday.
 
Uhm, arching isn't a problem with squats. Did you mean round?
 
Yeah I meant rounding. I'll be down in the hole, and then come up driving off my heels and it's so hard to push up that one or two times my back will round a bit. Every rep after 2-3 is like a grind to the top.
 
Don't let that happen - you can seriously hurt yourself. Maybe back the weight off a bit, work on increasing the weight once a week on squats. In short - try a single factor 5x5 run instead. Rippetoe's program is something that's probably best left to him in person, where he can supervise you.
 
Yeah, I didn't want to say anything because I really wanted this program to work, but I think my weights are getting a little to high for the Rippetoe program (In the squats at least) with me not eating as much as the program calls for. I'll finish out this week with lighter squats on Wednesday and go for 170 again on Friday, and start a SF 5x5 Monday. Any other advice?
 
Nothing much. Just keep an eye on your squat form. Are you doing high bar oly squats, or the style Rippetoe advocates, the generic power squat?
 
The bar usually sits on my traps and my feet are about shoulder width apart (Maybe a bit wider). I'm not sure which category that will fall into.

I'll finish out this week to get the gains on push press and bench, and then start a SF 5x5 on Monday. One question: Should I set all my lifts so that I'll be in PR territory in week 4, even though I've only stalled on squats? Or should I just set the squats like that and go on with my other lifts?
 
Do you sit back and down or do you sit straight down, knees flexing forward?

PR territory in week 4 sounds okay, you'll obviously have to scale back if you're hitting PRs right now, which may bore you a bit. You can just do a two week ramp instead, and hit PRs around then.

I'd treat each lift seperately, honestly. If you're progressing on one lift, I see no reason to make the others suffer. That goes under the same catergory as taking innocents along for the ride in war, just 'cause they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. At times, it's unavoidable, but if you don't have to go that route, why bother?

Basically - scale back the squats, ramp back up, keep pressing up the other stuff. A great part of this will be that as you stall on your other stuff, your squats will get heavier, and you'll be scaling back on other lifts. This allows you to recover better, on the whole, because you're not running on all cylinders on every lift. Get what I'm saying?
 
Yeah I see what you're seeing. I'm pretty much treating each lift differently. While one lift is recovering, the other will be progressing, so I won't be completely dead all the time with all the lifts recovering from PR territory. Wow, I almost confused myself again...but I get it. :P

My current 5RMs after Friday, if all goes well, will look like this:
Squat: 170
Bench: 145
Deadlift: 155
Power Clean: 95
Push Press: 90

I'll try and add 5 pounds a week to Squat, Deadlift, and Power Clean. I'll get some microloading chains and try and add 2.5 pounds a week to Bench and Push Press once I can't add 5 pounds a week to them any more. How does this look for Week 1?

Monday
Squats
95 x 5
110 x 5
125 x 5
135 x 5
150 x 5
Bench:
85 x 5
100 x 5
115 x 5
130 x 5
145 x 5
Power Clean:
55 x 5
65 x 5
75 x 5
85 x 5
95 x 5

Wednesday
Squats:
95 x 5
110 x 5
125 x 5
125 x 5
125 x 5
Push Press:
50 x 5
60 x 5
70 x 5
80 x 5
90 x 5
Deadlift:
95 x 5
110 x 5
125 x 5
140 x 5
155 x 5

Friday
Squats:
95 x 5
110 x 5
125 x 5
135 x 5
155 x 3
125 x 8
Bench:
85 x 5
100 x 5
115 x 5
130 x 5
150 x 3
115 x 8
Power Cleans:
55 x 5
65 x 5
75 x 5
85 x 5
100 x 3

Look about right? Or shuld I set my other lifts back one week just to make sure I recover? This is assuming I hit my goals on Wednesday and Friday's workouts this week.
 
That looks good to me man, you've got this single-factor thing down. :)
 
Thanks, I've definitely spent a lot of time reading up on it. :)

Looks like I'm good to go then, I'll keep you guys posted in this thread and I'll make another once I start the SF 5x5.
 
Wednesday 3/1/06 - Week 3 - Day 2
Workout B

Squats:
Bar x Warm-up
95 x 5
115 x 3
135 x 5
135 x 5
135 x 5
Just did light squats today and it felt great not to be struggling on almost every rep.

Push Press:
Bar x Warm-up
65 x 5
90 x 5
90 x 5
90 x 5
Push press went well, continues to climb.

Chin-ups:
BW x 5
BW x 4
BW x 4
BW x 1 (Pull-up)
This surprised me. I decided to try and see if I could do chin-ups and went with an underhand grip rather than an overhand. To my astonishment, I was able to get 5 full reps with my own body weight! The next set I almost got 5 but just couldn't get the top one, and the third I was done after 4. I tried one last set with an overhand grip and was still able to get one. I'm really happy with this, I think I'll stick to underhand chins for my SF 5x5.

Weighted Hyperextensions:
BW+35 x 8
BW+35 x 8
BW+35 x 8


Needsize Crunches:
BW+20 x 5 x 5

Comments:
Good workout today, my push press is climbing still and I'm ecstatic about the chin-ups. I'm finally machine free, and it feels so good!
 
Underhand chinups is the way to go. When you do them underhand, you give the biceps the best line of pull. The lats are also maximally recruited as a shoulder extensor when you do chinups, as opposed to the pullup.

When you get strong enough to do sets of 12-15 with underhand chinups with bodyweight, you may want to try pullups for the hell of it. The lats can be recruited as a shoulder extensor and something else (can't recall right now). This may be optimal for full lat development. Honestly though, I'm probably splitting hairs. Get stronger in a hypertropic rep range, and you'll be big. That's it.
 
That's good to know. I've heard mixed feelings about underhand chins, but I'm glad to hear that they're ok to do. My lats are a bit sore as well, so that's good. Getting psyched for this 5x5. :)
 
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