Doing a Deca, Susta Cycle...

[Glenner84]

Hi Guys!
I just bought me enough Sustanon250 and Deca to start a cycle. Of course i have Nolva and Clomid on hand. Though now i really wanna put in some primo in the cycle, sounds like nobody here got bad experiences with it. The sides aint so bad, the gains seems very good and its easyer to keep the gains , correct me if i', wrong. Anyone think i should make any changes in my cycle? I'm 21 years old, Doing my first cycle.

 

[The Terminator]

Sust AND Deca for a first cycle is overkill imo (even with low dosages)...I would pick one or the other...

 

[Rod555]

If your gona stack two together the sys and primo will give you less sides but you will have to be taking 300-400 mg of primo a week because it is mild.

I had this exact same problem when designing my next cycle, i didnt know whether to go with the primo or deca. Bearing in mind how expensive primo is, I went with the deca.

If its your first cycle, try a sys only cycle or a deca only cycle. If you get any signs of gyno at least youll know whats causing it.

 

[Glenner84]

SO you think this is a to Big cycle for a beginner? if a at first do a only susta cycle, how much will i keep after that? and then do me a deca cycle? you think my body will get a chock if i do both deca and susta at a 10weeks preiod?

 

[Rod555]

Its not that your body will get a shock its just that if you start to get gyno (Gynomastia, bitch tits) you wont know whether its the sys or the deca. If you do sys on its own first with no problems then if you do sys and deca on the second cycle, and you get gyno, you can expect it to be caused by the deca and treat it accordingly. Test gyno is caused by eastrogen, deca by proeastorgen (sp). You'll need nolva for the test gyno, dostinex for deca gyno.

Whats your stats bro? What sort of dose (mg) are you gona be taking a week?

 

[Slyder190]

Forget the Primo for now and just run SUS and Deca, PCT to begin 3 weeks after last shot on this one.

 

[yomama]

Hi Guys!
I just bought me enough Sustanon250 and Deca to start a cycle. Of course i have Nolva and Clomid on hand. Though now i really wanna put in some primo in the cycle, sounds like nobody here got bad experiences with it. The sides aint so bad, the gains seems very good and its easyer to keep the gains , correct me if i', wrong. Anyone think i should make any changes in my cycle? I'm 21 years old, Doing my first cycle.

Like everyone says, taking diff juice together is better than just taking one kind. Even for a beginner. Take sus and deca. You'd probably be better off than taking just one.

 

[Glenner84]

SO i need to purcase some dostinex before i begin my cycle. I'm 21 years in Januari, weight 76kg, height 180cm and have trained for about 2years. i have pics if anyone is intrested. Im not in a hurry to do this cycle, i'm gonna do a little more research before i start shooting.

 

[Rod555]

SO i need to purcase some dostinex before i begin my cycle. I'm 21 years in Januari, weight 76kg, height 180cm and have trained for about 2years. i have pics if anyone is intrested. Im not in a hurry to do this cycle, i'm gonna do a little more research before i start shooting.

Yes, get some dostinex if your going to do them both in one cycle.
What dosage are you gona take each week bro ?

 

[Glenner84]

sorry bro, i'm gonna do 500susta and 200 deca, gonna higher the susta in the middle of the cycle, maybe the deca to, then lower it to 500/200 at the end again, after tat iäm gonna start the pct, i have 250 Dianabol on hand to, but i don't think i'm gonna take them this cycle.

Very good forum bye the way, very nice and fastreplying people

 

[help4john]

sorry bro, i'm gonna do 500susta and 200 deca, gonna higher the susta in the middle of the cycle, maybe the deca to, then lower it to 500/200 at the end again, after tat iäm gonna start the pct, i have 250 Dianabol on hand to, but i don't think i'm gonna take them this cycle.

Very good forum bye the way, very nice and fastreplying people

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Good thinking....keep the DBOL available for the next cycle. Sust/Deca/DBOL was be an intense first cycle!

Anyone else think he should try Test only for first cycle at 500mg per week? No offense but 21 is a little young to put a bunch of gear in your body.

Just a thought!
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"There are two evils in this world: lack of money and lack of nookie!"

 

[Rod555]

Personaly id use 500 sys and 400 deca. Or at least 300 deca.

Oh my god are you gonna blow up on that cycle!

Help4john, i suggested a test only cycle as well but the bro wants to stack!

 

[Glenner84]

Yes i thought i should save the Dbol for my next cycle. I have a pal who started his first cycle 6weeks ago and he is just 19 years of age. I guess it fucks up the body in that age? so you think i am early? i think 21 is just perfect to start a cycle... just told my girlfriend abput it, she said she stands with me all the way, thats a real big step and a big relief for me. have anyone had any good experience with sust/deca cycle? would be veru intressting to hear your gains, keeps and what sides you got.

 

[Rod555]

Your girlfreind will be well happy when the sys kicks in, trust!

 

[Glenner84]

i think she will fucking craxy when the sust kicks in bro, my sexual stimulation is high already so thats gonna be a problem more then a happy thing i guess. What cycles have you done yourselfe Rod?

 

[Rod555]

Just came off a syst and primo for 6 weeks and test cyp at 500mg for the last 6 weeks. A bit of a random combo i know but i was dealing with a small time source then and i just took what was there.

After two weeks i was sat in work, my ex gf sent me a message, it wasnt even sexual but the thought of fucking her ended up in my head and i had to leave the room trying to smuggle a hard on out with me. It wouldnt go down for ages and actualy started to hurt.

 

[Glenner84]

sound like a bad experience bro. Yeah that was a odd cycle did it work out weel? gotta sleep no bro, good night see youy guys tomorrow

 

[help4john]

sound like a bad experience bro. Yeah that was a odd cycle did it work out weel? gotta sleep no bro, good night see youy guys tomorrow

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If your heart is set on a stack at least you have picked two good products. I started gear at 33 but experimented once at 20 with Test Suspension....blew up like a balloon and lost everything in a matter of weeks. What a waste thay cycle was!

Will this be for 8 or 10 weeks? Wish you luck but you won't need it....you'll be too horny for luck and always willing to **ck!

 

[Glenner84]

Sounds good bro. I'm going for a 10 week cycle i think. But maybe i'll only do 8 weeks. anyone have any suggestions?

 

[help4john]

Sounds good bro. I'm going for a 10 week cycle i think. But maybe i'll only do 8 weeks. anyone have any suggestions?

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If you read some of the posts regularly by the veterans such as "Jenetic", 8 weeks is suggested. This, however, is easier said than done! I've done a 10 weeker Sust/Deca with tremendous results but it wasn't my first go. Please make sure your PCT is well planned or you may be asking for trouble. Jenetic posted an excellent script on the PCT board....check it out.

Take care!

 

[Glenner84]

Gonna plan the PCT better yes, if i'm going for a deca/susta cycle, can anyone help me do a PCt scedual or something that i can use. I'm gonna learn alot more about the cycle before i begin so there's no problem there... i'm just not so secure abput the sides and the PCT yet...thought i ask around a little more

 

[oatsandgrains]

Hi Guys!
I just bought me enough Sustanon250 and Deca to start a cycle. Of course i have Nolva and Clomid on hand. Though now i really wanna put in some primo in the cycle, sounds like nobody here got bad experiences with it. The sides aint so bad, the gains seems very good and its easyer to keep the gains , correct me if i', wrong. Anyone think i should make any changes in my cycle? I'm 21 years old, Doing my first cycle.

Dude you baught all those steroids without even knowing the answers to those simple questions. You NEED to do your homework because you obviously don't know half of what you should. Sure you'll put on lots of weight but you will only keep some of it I can assure you this much. And Nolvadex does not stop estrogen from forming in your body it only blocks the receptor sites. If I were you I would go to www.hmgear.com and pick up aromabolan P.C.T.. Its pretty f*cking good shit and it has the anabolic effects of Primo if taken at the right dosages. And bro, what cycle? You never wrote anything down! Are you just going to stick it in your ass and hope you are doing the right dosages for your body type? And how long are you taking them? Geeze man! Not to sound harsh or anything. You know you will probably come out fine doing whatever you were planning to do but take a couple weeks and do it right and get 2X bigger with not even half the side effects.
Just my 2CCents

 

[Glenner84]

I have written several times in just this post that i'm going to do ALOT more studying before i start taking the shit. and if i aint gonna take it i could just sell it to a pal.

 

[help4john]

Gonna plan the PCT better yes, if i'm going for a deca/susta cycle, can anyone help me do a PCt scedual or something that i can use. I'm gonna learn alot more about the cycle before i begin so there's no problem there... i'm just not so secure abput the sides and the PCT yet...thought i ask around a little more

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PCT is just as important as the cycle itself or you're left with nothing more than you started with. The following was posted by DRJMW 15-July-2004:

I have posted this recovery cycle many times. Since this is a new category, I will repost. This recovery cycle works 100% of the time. In extreme cases, it actually needs to be done twice. This recovery cycle is predicated on the fact that the athlete has something to recover. Baseline blood testing of testosterone levels, estradiol levels, and prolactin levels will tell the athlete the whole story. If the athlete's baseline Testos levels are low to low-normal of the range, then recovery is a waste of time. If the athlete's levels are in the middle, then a recovery cycle may be worth it to see the body's reaction.

Begin this cycle the week after last AAS intake.
Weeks one thru three: 1,000U HCG, IM, Monday, Wednesday, Friday; 20mg Nolvadex daily. [50mg clomid daily is added to the cycle if the athlete is coming off a prolonged (12 week+), 600mg+total, weekly AAS dosing (heavy)].

Weeks four thru six: 20mg Nolvadex daily. (50mg Clomid daily if you used it the first three weeks)

Weeks seven, eight: clean. Use this time to evaluate your previous AAS cycle and your recovery. Begin planning your next AAS cycle.

I have posted the following statement a million times, and still 95% of the steroid athletes ignore it: "Blood testing is essential to determine your baseline, see how your body reacts and to see if you recover."

The medications for this cycle are readily available, so there is no excuse. Remember, the antiestrogens and recovery meds are just as important (or more so) than the AAS.

This is just a start for your research. Good luck on your continuing quest!

 

[Glenner84]

According to this PCT info i don't need Dostinex then? how much HCG do i need to order? 1,000U per week or, that makes it 3,000U total

 

[help4john]

According to this PCT info i don't need Dostinex then? how much HCG do i need to order? 1,000U per week or, that makes it 3,000U total

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Earlier you wrote "i'm gonna do 500susta and 200 deca, gonna higher the susta in the middle of the cycle, maybe the deca to, then lower it to 500/200 at the end again." If the dosage of Deca is only 200 (300mg highest) AND Test stays at least 500mg you most likely will not need Dostinex. I did 500Test and 200 Deca for 10 weeks and had absolutely no problems with libido and sex drive .... well I couldn't slow them down but I don't see that as a problem! Having said that, Deca is single handedly responsible for killing the sex drive of many users for several months....please read info regarding Deca dick (and yes, I've been there too!).

As far as HCH is concerned, DRJMW recommends 3,000IU per week. Some find it necessary to increase this dosage depending on the amount of gear used. With 500 Test and 200 Deca this is about right. You always want to ensure your boys come back to normal ASAP.

 

[Glenner84]

that sounds good. 2,00IU per week, but how many weeks will i have to take them? So i don't have to order any dostinex then? thx bro

 

[help4john]

that sounds good. 2,00IU per week, but how many weeks will i have to take them? So i don't have to order any dostinex then? thx bro

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Correct...skip the Dostinex...the Test should keep your testosterone levels high enough to drive your libido. HCG three weeks, 1,000IU every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. The HCG will turn your balls back to normal size post cycle.

 

[Glenner84]

And how would the Cycle look like if i did a Deca Only Cycle? How much Deca do i need to take a week? i think i'll start with that cycle to avoid Side effects,

 

[slat1]

If it was my first I would run just sust. I used to grow off 250mgs a week at 200lbs. These days people like to start off at 500mgs each week. Either way... I would get some HCG for mid cycle. Use the Clomid after as the PCT board will explain.
I would run the Deca for the second cycle six months after starting the first 10 weeker. That way you get equal time on and off. I would run dostinex at .5 twice a week throughout. I, again, would use HCG during and Clomid after.
You will have great results if you use proper PCT of HCG and Clomid. Remember to keep you diet and training in check too.
Let us know how it turns out.
Best of Luck.