Does excess androgens close growth plates?

[JV]

i once read an article that says that androgenes in the right amounts will increase height in men

They made a setup showing, that men normaly are higher then women and explained that the reason for this was that women had more estrogene then men, leading to a faster stop in growth plantes.
Surely genetics ect has some to say also

So anavar, winstrol and such would be perfect for this since it did not close growth plantes due to not aromatising into estrogene
think anavar was mainly used for this

I know Anavar has been used to increase height. But I'm still confused on accelerated growth or plate closure in reguards to androgens. Lets say if a non aromatizing steroid or PH like Epistane or Dimethazine were used, could it stunt growth due to slightly high androgen ratio? Or would the high androgens boost natural height because it cannot convert, so the androgens will stay androgens?? Thanks.

 

[JV]

I know Anavar has been used to increase height. But I'm still confused on accelerated growth or plate closure in reguards to androgens. Lets say if a non aromatizing steroid or PH like Epistane or Dimethazine were used, could it stunt growth due to slightly high androgen ratio? Or would the high androgens boost natural height because it cannot convert, so the androgens will stay androgens?? Thanks.

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[JV]

I know Anavar has been used to increase height. But I'm still confused on accelerated growth or plate closure in reguards to androgens. Lets say if a non aromatizing steroid or PH like Epistane or Dimethazine were used, could it stunt growth due to slightly high androgen ratio? Or would the high androgens boost natural height because it cannot convert, so the androgens will stay androgens?? Thanks.

Bump???

 

[cuthroat]

quit bumping your thread and if your asking questions related to closing growth plates you don't need to be messing around with AS your to young.

 

[maldorf]

quit bumping your thread and if your asking questions related to closing growth plates you don't need to be messing around with AS your to young.

Exactly. Nobody that young needs to be using steroids. When youre that young you grow like a weed naturally because of high hormone levels and because youre new to lifting. The first 5 years or so are a cake walk. Starting that young is only going to make it that much harder to make gains when you grow older because your body will become dependant on the extra hormone levels and once you get off youll lose most of what you put on anyhow.

 

[needtogetaas]

One question though, when you say it causes accelerated growth. Do you mean it speeds up the closing process or what. Or you just basically hit a growth spurt?

They give steroids like var to kids my man. Only highly aromatising steroids will cause a problem.

 

[Gamer2Be08]

Exactly. Nobody that young needs to be using steroids. When youre that young you grow like a weed naturally because of high hormone levels and because youre new to lifting. The first 5 years or so are a cake walk. Starting that young is only going to make it that much harder to make gains when you grow older because your body will become dependant on the extra hormone levels and once you get off youll lose most of what you put on anyhow.

Wrong, if you grow like a weed for 5 years natty it is because you are genetically inclined. Some people have hyper thyroids. Some have real slow. Some guys have large body frames and some guys have tiny feminine body frames. Not every teen trough
I'd twenties is lucky enough to have normal estro levels and above 800 ng/dl test levels. So many factors in how fast you grow. Some guys natural cap is under 200lbs. To many factors to say if you are 20 you grow lime a weed. In 4000 cams a dah I grow like a torrid lmao.

 

[JV]

Thanks guys. Yea I'm near 20 now, and go get up to around 215 at 8% body fat. My bench is 300 and dead is 500. I guess to be safe I can wait to put another 100 pounds on those lifts till cycle??

 

[Gamer2Be08]

Thanks guys. Yea I'm near 20 now, and go get up to around 215 at 8% body fat. My bench is 300 and dead is 500. I guess to be safe I can wait to put another 100 pounds on those lifts till cycle??

I shouldn't advocate this openly lmao.... But I would hop on cycle in your situation? When you hit 21?

 

[JV]

I shouldn't advocate this openly lmao.... But I would hop on cycle in your situation? When you hit 21?

Next June. And hahaha, at least you're one of the open minded tell it like it is guys. It gets old when the ignorant members only say what they think with no real knowledge nor experience.

The two things that worry me are stunting growth (I may be done growing, but I hope not lmao) and that people say taking gear will ruin gains in the future.
As for stunting growth, thats why I'd only run non aromatizing PH's (and why I was/am worried about androgens). And as for wrecking and destroying future natty gains, I don't see that being REAALLY feasible on short 4 week cycles.