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does EQ really convert to EPO?

hanibal said:
- anyone ever have side effects/issues w/ EQ? i used it back in the day, but never more than 400/wk and never longer than 10 weeks.

it gave me the worst anxiety i've ever experienced ...@ a dose of 600mg/wk ...i have since experimented EQ only to comfirm that it was indeed the cause @ 400mg/wk and felt the symptoms returning slightly after a single dose ...i can not explain it, though other have expressed theories thickened blood that could or would restrict capillary flow ...also i can neither confirm nor deny an underlying cause ...this has been my experience


Ulter, how long would you estimate that it would take for RBC to return back to normal after discontinuance?
 
wONDERING IF THE SIDE EFFECTS YOU mentionmed were worth the lean mass it produces.....I havent had any of those symptoms but am wondering if my LOW blood pressure is a result???
 
The site you linked doesn't say that EQ converts to EPO, but rather that EQ stimulates erythropoietin production in the kidney.

However, from most things I've read, it seems that most AAS stimulate erythropoietin production to some extent.
 
the whole blood thickening thing is starting to bother me, thinking about dropping the EQ and do primo entire time w/ everything else.
- if a primo cycle is done at 600-700/wk for like 16 wks w/T3 wk 3-11, winny last 8, maybe alilttle masteron wk 12-16, is proviron and or AIFM needed at all. i will be using AIFM PCT. not sure if i should use clomid also, thinking abou using proviron PCT. any thoughts? again looking to just get harder and leaner while preserving what i have w/ just alittle more size. i would be happy to get my BF to 7% at about 220. i'm about 10-11% now at 212. i will be around 205 under 10% when i start. primo is a prime candidate for me. too bad it's so pricy. it's worth it IMO.
 
JKurz1 said:
what are the benes to using a VERY low dose...just an increase in lean mass and strength? say 300mg/week...?

hey Bro - I'm using 400mg EQ Cyp/week, and in week 5 now, I am loving the cardio benefits................vascularity is there at that dose also.

It's just 600mg/week Test E
400mg/week EQ/Cyp
 
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you should be getting blood tests anyways... anything 50 or below for hematacrit is fine... above 60 getting dangerous.



|3ossman said:
thicker blood increases blood pressure, i dont really see that as a positive
 
a creed said:
hey Bro - I'm using 400mg EQ Cyp/week, and in week 5 now, I am loving the cardio benefits................vascularity is there at that dose also.

It's just 600mg/week Test E
400mg/week EQ/Cyp
I am exactly half that dose and love it all well.......
 
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