Does anyone do a full range of motion when lifting anymore?

[BileStew]

Everyday, I see people, kids mostly who think they're strong as ox's because they can (i.e... press 225 behind their shoulders). HELLO, you walking amoebas!!!!, lifting it from the rack and dropping it 2 inches so there is slight bend in your elbow is NOT pressing 225!!!

I see them on the flat bench doing this too. And they're not doing negatives. They barely lower it more then half way, push it back up like they're having a severe bout with constipation and then jump up like they defeated the Chinese Army single handidly pounding their chests. Who taught them this crap, John Basedow and his bleached hair fitness tapes??

 

[bran987]

they are very advanced kids.. they have gained 10 lbs. of sheer mass and plateaud and are close to their genetic potential so they must do partials in order to keep growing.. once they gain another 5 lbs. they will be forced to use steroids and triple drop giant sets to break through again

 

[WODIN]

Lol!!!

 

[BrandonXJ]

That's why I don't do bench with a bar.. just dumbells.. that and the fact everyone and their momma is trying to get into the bench presses so they can try and prove who the toughest guy is.

 

[AAP]

i don't go through a full range of motion on some exercises.

when I do incline presses, I stop the bar a couple of inches above my chest.

if I want a stretch, I do flyes.

I don't believe in going all the way down with shoulder presses either, I go until I see my elbow shift slightly and then stop, with military presses I stop the bar about my chin height. bringing it down to chest or below chin is doing nothing but rotating your elbows backwards and downwards in order to lower the weight.

 

[Buddy_Christ]

hey Bile, you wanna REALLY go off about people not doing full range of motion? come to my gym with me some time. you'll be on your knees hurling your name on the floor within 10 minutes.

 

[d3track]

Everyday, I see people, kids mostly who think they're strong as ox's because they can (i.e... press 225 behind their shoulders). HELLO, you walking amoebas!!!!, lifting it from the rack and dropping it 2 inches so there is slight bend in your elbow is NOT pressing 225!!!

I see them on the flat bench doing this too. And they're not doing negatives. They barely lower it more then half way, push it back up like they're having a severe bout with constipation and then jump up like they defeated the Chinese Army single handidly pounding their chests. Who taught them this crap, John Basedow and his bleached hair fitness tapes??

hey, if you woulda spotted me i woulda been able to do a full rep
lol

 

[satchboogie]

and what exactly do you consider 'full range of motion'????

do you mean to tell me that when doing bicep curls, for example, the elbow needs to come to a 180 degree angle and then all the way up to the shoulder??

cause THATS the full range of motion..
and its not necessary!

let me guess....

you're one of those dudes that raise their necks and upper back when doin sit ups to get the 'full range of motion'.

not a flame bro.

 

[AAP]

worse thing I see is these kids loading up the bar 315 to do some shrugs... wrapping his hands to the bar... heaving it off and then bending his knees, bouncing up on his heels, hunkering down and sticking his chin towards his belly button just so he can do some "reps". The entire movement looks like he is convulsing or doing some fucktard ab movement

 

[Code]

I was thinking this yesterday at the gym.
Went and bought Pumping Iron at Wal-Mart and got so pissed at Lou Ferrigno doing the same thing, I had to stop watching.

 

[danielson]

ditto with AAP on the incline bench

im switching back from BB to DB....BB has brought me nothing but trouble shoulder wise and i have access to heavier DB's now

 

[Sub-Zero]

Everyday, I see people, kids mostly who think they're strong as ox's because they can (i.e... press 225 behind their shoulders). HELLO, you walking amoebas!!!!, lifting it from the rack and dropping it 2 inches so there is slight bend in your elbow is NOT pressing 225!!!

I see them on the flat bench doing this too. And they're not doing negatives. They barely lower it more then half way, push it back up like they're having a severe bout with constipation and then jump up like they defeated the Chinese Army single handidly pounding their chests. Who taught them this crap, John Basedow and his bleached hair fitness tapes??

lol... i dont get the first part, but on bench, how the fuck are u gunna not lower it all the way? i thought everyone knew how to bench, and the only problem was idiots bouncing it off their chest and breaking ribs

 

[Sub-Zero]

i don't go through a full range of motion on some exercises.

when I do incline presses, I stop the bar a couple of inches above my chest.

if I want a stretch, I do flyes.

I don't believe in going all the way down with shoulder presses either, I go until I see my elbow shift slightly and then stop, with military presses I stop the bar about my chin height. bringing it down to chest or below chin is doing nothing but rotating your elbows backwards and downwards in order to lower the weight.

i do the same for military presses, but with shoulder presses, i go all the way down cause i see in the mirror when mys leeves are rolled up that my shoulders are still moving

 

[supersizeme]

i do full range of motion everything. even when i'm up on 10' stilts doing stiff legged deadlifts

 

[strongsmartsexy]

lol... i dont get the first part, but on bench, how the fuck are u gunna not lower it all the way? i thought everyone knew how to bench, and the only problem was idiots bouncing it off their chest and breaking ribs

I like when they do that. It keeps them out of the gym for a few months so I can use the equipment properly.

 

[AAP]

i do full range of motion everything. even when i'm up on 10' stilts doing stiff legged deadlifts

I've seen you. You are the one with the brown streak on your head after doing pullthroughs.

 

[supersizeme]

lol

 

[velvett]

I'm all about FORM.

 

[string_bean00]

I don't lock out on military press. It just feels more like tricep work at that point, which is not what I'm looking for.

 

[strongsmartsexy]

I'm all about FORM.

And what a lovely form you are too!

 

[chewyxrage]

I don't believe in going all the way down with shoulder presses either, I go until I see my elbow shift slightly and then stop, with military presses I stop the bar about my chin height. bringing it down to chest or below chin is doing nothing but rotating your elbows backwards and downwards in order to lower the weight.

i agree with this - it also seems like bringing the BB all the way down kills my shoulders...so not bringing it down so far seems like the best answer

 

[BileStew]

and what exactly do you consider 'full range of motion'????

do you mean to tell me that when doing bicep curls, for example, the elbow needs to come to a 180 degree angle and then all the way up to the shoulder??

cause THATS the full range of motion..
and its not necessary!

let me guess....

you're one of those dudes that raise their necks and upper back when doin sit ups to get the 'full range of motion'.

not a flame bro.

What do I consider a full range of motion? Uhh, actually doing the exercise correctly. Read my original post. I mentioned how they think by lowering the (and I used the shoulder press as an example) weight about 3 inches then pressing it back up. What's the sense of doing them if you can't do it correctly? And the same with bench press, dumbell and bar. I see people lowering 105's not even to be considered a negative. I'd like to actually see them go all they way down. Their facial expressions would be priceless when they couldn't get them back up without 3 guys helping.

And AAP, I agree, I go about an inch or so above my traps when doing these.

And as for your comment about me raising my neck and upper back up during sit-ups...I don't do sit-ups. I just fall out of bed in the morning.

 

[velvett]

And what a lovely form you are too!

GRRRRRR

WHHHHHHHHHhooooooooF baby yah.

 

[satchboogie]

fair enough...

let me shed more light on full range of motion of the knee joint for example:

the full range of motion is when when the knee is fully extended (forming a 180 degree angle of your leg), and and flexed so that the heel of the feet is touching your ass.

now for quad developement, do we really need a full range of motion?

 

[tuc biscuit]

full range of motion and effective range of motion are two different things

 

[crew9]

full range of motion and effective range of motion are two different things

He's talking about kids who do lifts that you could barely call partials. Yes there is a difference between full ROM and enough ROM to build muscle. Personally I'd rather be strong the entire way through.

 

[The Shadow]

Everyday, I see people, kids mostly who think they're strong as ox's because they can (i.e... press 225 behind their shoulders). HELLO, you walking amoebas!!!!, lifting it from the rack and dropping it 2 inches so there is slight bend in your elbow is NOT pressing 225!!!

I see them on the flat bench doing this too. And they're not doing negatives. They barely lower it more then half way, push it back up like they're having a severe bout with constipation and then jump up like they defeated the Chinese Army single handidly pounding their chests. Who taught them this crap, John Basedow and his bleached hair fitness tapes??

LOL

Remember - there are TWO roms.

Each exercise has a full ROM

Each muslce group has full ROM

 

[tuc biscuit]

He's talking about kids who do lifts that you could barely call partials. Yes there is a difference between full ROM and enough ROM to build muscle. Personally I'd rather be strong the entire way through.

yeah I know, just saying sometimes it is best not to go all the way

 

[strongsmartsexy]

GRRRRRR

WHHHHHHHHHhooooooooF baby yah.

Talk to me baby!

 

[strongsmartsexy]

fair enough...

let me shed more light on full range of motion of the knee joint for example:

the full range of motion is when when the knee is fully extended (forming a 180 degree angle of your leg), and and flexed so that the heel of the feet is touching your ass.

now for quad developement, do we really need a full range of motion?

How about full range of motion for the movement.

I've seen people such lame movement just so they can add more weight on the bar and inflate their ego. Doesn't do crapola for strength and size though.

Almost as bad as the guys who bounce weights off their chest with bench are those who barely come within 12 inches of their chest on the bench.

Or how about the guys who only get to about 160 degrees of bend in the arms for dips, or 1 1/2" of movement on heavy calf raises??? I should video this shit and have a "Worlds dorkiest lifters" video.

 

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Aren't partial ,high reps the basis of Omegas training routines?

 

[Wulfgar]

I never lock anything out. presses, squats, nothin


but i do make sure I feel a good tug on the muscle in the low positions

 

[SaiBoT]

Usually do full squats, full deads sometimes with 35lbs plates to increase the ROM, on bench I always touch chest and lockout, sure I have done sumo squats and deads (both at 465lbs) and half benches but honestly you can fool some people but not yourself.

But certainly I support constant tension reps for bodybuilding purposes, they are great for anatomic-chart-like muscle!