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do you use ghb instead of drink?

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just curious heard most bodybuilders use ghb when they go out so they dont put on the calories from liquor..
 
YOu can also do some coke that will burn you fat and take away your appetite , won't reccomend Weed cause will make hungry............

Don't know how X will work.........if you do post your results
 
I can’t drink,

Tried G hundreds of times, love it, is it still available?

OD’ once really bad, went to the hospital, screwed up my cycle for a couple of weeks.

Anyway I did not know it was still available.
 
of course g is still available its made out of chemicals from under your sink..
 
Phaded said:
of course g is still available its made out of chemicals from under your sink..


yeh....you are real bright........you go under your sink and tell me if you have any GBL(conisdering its a DEA listed chemical)......and im willing to bet anything you don't have any usp grade sodium hydroxide either, but oh well....don't believe everything you read bro.

and as for ghb, i won't even get started on it. many hear know my past experiences with it and my thoughts on it. lets just keep it short and say i believe it is illegal for VERY good reason
 
fuck that shit. turns me into a hard partying, dopey, horny, reckless idiot. sounds great but not when u are happily married w/ a 15 month old son. if i go out and feel the need to get fucked up, it's Ketel1 and club.
 
so getting caught with g is just as bad as getting caught with coke?
 
if you get caught its the weight of the solution, not the active compound, that they charge you with also (this is what my cop friend told me, might be a state by state thing). that is killer right there. its like acid weight including the paper.
 
timtim said:
if you get caught its the weight of the solution, not the active compound, that they charge you with also (this is what my cop friend told me, might be a state by state thing). that is killer right there. its like acid weight including the paper.


YES, exactly. If you have 5 oz's of stout shit watered down to make a gallon you get charged with a gallon.......distribution. just like when you cut cocaine, they charge you with total weight.

anyways, point is this shit is bad news and has no place in bodybuilding
 
drr:

i stopped g, k, and e right when shit got bad. prior to the "crackdown" it was so easy to get. i was getting gbl from muscle mag international. there was a code when you asked the counter guy and he would go in the back and bring out the bottles. crazy.
 
timtim said:
drr:

i stopped g, k, and e right when shit got bad. prior to the "crackdown" it was so easy to get. i was getting gbl from muscle mag international. there was a code when you asked the counter guy and he would go in the back and bring out the bottles. crazy.


Yeh, i won't get into all the problems that G has caused me in my life..........its just bad news!!
 
Phaded said:
wow i never knew all this when did it become so hot?


well it got really hot when the dea did "operation webslinger" it was a lot like gear grinder. they raided a place in canada selling gbl to people in the usa and then came and got them. its been a VERY hot item for LE for the past few years.
 
Phaded said:
lol i used to sell lsd never knew it was up there with heroin..


Bro, lsd mandatory min's are the same as heroin........maybe you should have realized the implications of your actions before just selling it...........i wouldn't mention that on an open board either!
 
drrman said:
Bro, lsd mandatory min's are the same as heroin........maybe you should have realized the implications of your actions before just selling it...........i wouldn't mention that on an open board either!

i dont give a fuck i was 18 at the time and had alot of money a connect for lsd and no one anywhere had it.. i was buying sheets for like 300 and selling hits for 11 bucks..

young and dumb..
 
Phaded said:
i dont give a fuck i was 18 at the time and had alot of money a connect for lsd and no one anywhere had it.. i was buying sheets for like 300 and selling hits for 11 bucks..

young and dumb..


LOL....i've been there bro!!!
 
e is pretty bad now too. you get caught with 20 pills your getting time. that is just too much bs for me to even think of. yet i think back 10 years ago and i was carrying that shit through customs to mexico for spring break, along with all the other shit. now you couldnt get me to carry 1 pill into a club.
 
I think HB is the only drug with dual scheduling. There is a medical use for it now.. (Xyrem). Just more government BS.
 
i can get sodium hydroxide :) i have connections in a soap factory. don't know it's purpose in ghb though. someone explain. sodium hydroxide is a caustic. it will burn your skin off you. actually when it gets on your skin it turns your skin into soap. it must be rinsed for 15 minutes. bad bad chemical burns. and if you are talking powder SH, that shit won't burn you until moisture gets on it with your skin and now your talking about a hole in your arm. it's bad shit. being i worked in a soap factory for five years and mixed and produced and packaged industrial cleaners i always read whats in hygenic products and soap products. SH is in mouthwash. hehe, that's why it burns
 
jagerbombme said:
i can get sodium hydroxide :) i have connections in a soap factory. don't know it's purpose in ghb though. someone explain. sodium hydroxide is a caustic. it will burn your skin off you. actually when it gets on your skin it turns your skin into soap. it must be rinsed for 15 minutes. bad bad chemical burns. and if you are talking powder SH, that shit won't burn you until moisture gets on it with your skin and now your talking about a hole in your arm. it's bad shit. being i worked in a soap factory for five years and mixed and produced and packaged industrial cleaners i always read whats in hygenic products and soap products. SH is in mouthwash. hehe, that's why it burns


sodium hydroxide isn't that hard to get..........its the active ingredient in some drain cleaners, hence why people say you make ghb with stuff under the sink.

now, to make real GHB to answer your question you take a strong base(sodium hydroxide) and mix it with an acid(GBL) or gammabutrylactone. Now, if you put the right ratio of those two chems you will end up with ghb with a ph of 7(neutral)...........hence one reason when you buy it on the blackmarket you don't really know how good it is b/c you don't know if the maker checked the PH, so it can be too basic or acidic, both are bad on the body.

AND, you don't know if they used usp grade NaOH in the substance either, because other methods of NaOH such as the drain cleaner someone spoke of have lots of "hard" metals in them which can be very bad on the human body.

anyways, stuff is bad news, stay away from it
 
jagerbombme said:
im not talking about a product containing sodium hydroxide though, i can get pure sodium hydroxide. :)


bro, so can i, anyone can, its not that hard to get, its not scheduled or listed. many hobby shops sell it.

some of the lowsy ass ghb cooks are too fucking lazy to buy usp grade, and they are likely making it at 2 in the morning when some of the drain cleaner products are being sold and will suffice.............well, they will suffice but who knows what the fuck its doing to your body.
 
drrman said:
bro, so can i, anyone can, its not that hard to get, its not scheduled or listed. many hobby shops sell it.

some of the lowsy ass ghb cooks are too fucking lazy to buy usp grade, and they are likely making it at 2 in the morning when some of the drain cleaner products are being sold and will suffice.............well, they will suffice but who knows what the fuck its doing to your body.
:evil:
 
its still available online and some websites exist with that loophole that its an automoble chrome cleaning chemical.(ya that makes me want to take that, lol)
 
That shit is still around? That's one thing I never tried myself. Prolly would have, just that it was never eally around. None of my friends really used it Sounds like a bad gamble to me though after reading what drrman had to say.
 
Anthony Starks said:
Sweet, you and anyone with an internet connection, awesome hook up!


smart ass! i don't know how or where anyone else would get it. if they can great, i could get 55gl barrels of the shit is all i was saying. i find it odd that that is all the shit is is sodium hydroxide and some type of acid. wierd
 
yea, GHB is bad news. i have not done it or seen it around for about 5 years. some friends had some scary things happen to them while on it. i would never touch it again. you never know the concentration of it either. take too much, go to sleep and dont wake up :(
 
Well,

Thanks for the education, a lot has changed in 6 years, it was always dangerous, as mentioned earlier when I over dosed, the nurse at the ER, gave me a list of drugs to take instead of G.


But when I first took it,

I kid you not; I don’t think it was even illegal.


Anyway staying away from it forever now,

Thanks again
 
when i took it we would just take water bottle caps of the stuff. that is the prob, you never know the concentration
 
how many caps did you take to od on ghb


That is a good question, and I don’t know the actual answer.

When I had the stuff alone, I was dangerous, when I drank with friends, I would simply do what they did, and they knew not to give me too much,

We never drank booze or took other drugs.

I don’t want to say for certain, but I would not be surprised if I did a cap every twenty minutes until I passed out.

I was out by my pool, why who knows, and a neighbor saw me, called the cops, who called an ambulance and next thing I was in the ER.


Now that all happened and I still did the grap again, not to excess, but it amazes me how crazy that can be. I am a lot better off staying completely boring and sober.
 
the funny thing is, i could drink about 20 beers and it would not affect me while on Ghb. Seriously, im not exaggerating, maybe more
 
I remember the very first time I took it, it was maybe 1998,

Took one cap before bed, went to bed, felt sober but simply wonderful, really wonderful.

And slept like a baby.

Great feeling.
 
SwolK said:
the funny thing is, i could drink about 20 beers and it would not affect me while on Ghb. Seriously, im not exaggerating, maybe more

You can do that on alot of drugs, coke, e, speed etc.

GBH is evil shit
 
I've used GHB in the past and had nothing but good results from it. I'm wondering how much of the ban on GHB has to do with lobbyists from the multi-billion dollar alcohol industry and it's these kind of questions that make me wonder: GHB is a direct competitor against alcohol.

I believe most cost/benefit analyses would show GHB a clear winner.
 
athlete.03 said:
I've used GHB in the past and had nothing but good results from it. I'm wondering how much of the ban on GHB has to do with lobbyists from the multi-billion dollar alcohol industry and it's these kind of questions that make me wonder: GHB is a direct competitor against alcohol.

I believe most cost/benefit analyses would show GHB a clear winner.


shows your fucking ignorance my friend...................cost/benefit showing it a winner my ass.

i know more about this substance than probably anyone on this board, and believe me, it is illegal for VERY VERY good reasons.

get drunk you pass out.................take too much g and pass out on your back and you choke on your own puke as your stomach bile turns to a thick green snot like shit that comes back up through your throat.

I guess you haven't nearly lost everything in your life on it as me, and i guess you didn't have to carry your best friends girl to the emergency room one morning and set around and cry with her family as they told you she wasn't going to make it.............then i guess you didn't have to set around wondering for 5 days while she was unconcious in a coma wondering if she was going to live.

You have only scratched the surface of what real ghb use is like bro, i was addicted and i don't have an addictive personality, shit grew on me over a period of years of very little use. hardest thing in my life i have ever kicked.......so obviously you don't have a clue what you are talking about

I can continue on with more and more stories if you would like
 
I've used GHB in the past and had nothing but good results from it. I'm wondering how much of the ban on GHB has to do with lobbyists from the multi-billion dollar alcohol industry and it's these kind of questions that make me wonder: GHB is a direct competitor against alcohol.

this is completely moronic to say the least man. the ban has little to do with the alcohol industry i would think and more to do with the fact that PEOPLE SLIP WOMEN THE DRUG AND RAPE THEM. ive seen a hand full of people seize up and die in front of me, one dude was on line at a shore club right in front of me and dropped. they were shocking him in the ambulance but nothing saved him. G destroys lives and is crazy, crazy addicitve. maybe thats why its banned too, hmm? because of its high rate of abuse? hmm, maybe.
 
drrman said:
shows your fucking ignorance my friend...................cost/benefit showing it a winner my ass.

i know more about this substance than probably anyone on this board, and believe me, it is illegal for VERY VERY good reasons.

get drunk you pass out.................take too much g and pass out on your back and you choke on your own puke as your stomach bile turns to a thick green snot like shit that comes back up through your throat.

I guess you haven't nearly lost everything in your life on it as me, and i guess you didn't have to carry your best friends girl to the emergency room one morning and set around and cry with her family as they told you she wasn't going to make it.............then i guess you didn't have to set around wondering for 5 days while she was unconcious in a coma wondering if she was going to live.

You have only scratched the surface of what real ghb use is like bro, i was addicted and i don't have an addictive personality, shit grew on me over a period of years of very little use. hardest thing in my life i have ever kicked.......so obviously you don't have a clue what you are talking about

I can continue on with more and more stories if you would like
drr,
sorry to hear about all that man. luckly i have not had as many horrible experiances with it, but i can see where you are coming from. peeps go into a "g hole" and dont wake back up
 
Some chick dosed me w/ G one time. All I remember is that we would start fucking and pass out. I'd wake up dick still hard and still in her pussy and start fucking till I passed out again. I think we probably went through about 20 different episodes of sleep fucking. Funniest thing is, I swear I didn't bust one nut that night. Weird.
 
a bomb said:
Some chick dosed me w/ G one time. All I remember is that we would start fucking and pass out. I'd wake up dick still hard and still in her pussy and start fucking till I passed out again. I think we probably went through about 20 different episodes of sleep fucking. Funniest thing is, I swear I didn't bust one nut that night. Weird.


thats not a weird thing on g bro, it is known for delaying orgasm or preventing it alltogether
 
Well it's a fucking retard drug if you asked me. No disrepect to you or anything. I hate that it fucked you up like it did. It ranks right up there with Meth. I mean why would you want to smoke some shit that rots your teeth, ages you rapidly, and is widely known to hook you hard and fast. I just don't see why people make such dumb choices.
 
you drink to much - you pass out and wake up? what about alcohol poisoning? I am not supporting either. I drink and do G (not on the same night) I use a applicator to measure out 2ml and dont redose for over and hour if need be. Never use it in the clubs really - but keep it home to take a dose before sex. shit makes me an animal in bed.
If you had a bad experiance its because you couldnt control yourself. But trust me - there are much more people dead or in jail cause of stupid shit they did when they drank to much booze, driving or fighting.
 
timtim said:
because you know any of us who have posted about the evils of ghb.


no shit..............people don't ever listen to shit like this huh

i tell you what you PRO ghb nuts do, you reasearch my posts on it from 2001-2003 or so and see what i thought about it then, i said the exact same shit, its a good drug, used safely its not bad...blah blah blha............well its 3-4 years later and im singing a different tune boys, shit is BAD NEWS.

but if you want to risk it you go right ahead. It took me years of use here and there and next thing i knew i had problems. the shit is illegal for VERY good reason, one of the few times i agree with the gov't on this one
 
i would have never tried crystal meth, but you cannot tell white crystaline powder from white crystaline powder, and when your smart ass buddy thinks it's cool to bust out a 6" fat gordy. it's not a joke. that shit scared the fucking shit outta me. my heart felt like a clanky car motor going 100mph. my heart rate had to be 200 for more than 15 minutes. i was fucking tweaked for a long time. that was the second to last time i ever snorted anything. thank god for my lady who is now my wife. she helped me stop that shit 10 years ago. haven't touched anything except weed, acid 1 time with her, and aas first cycle now. and never will do anything except aas, and weed ever again.

i might try some oxytocin though, sounds like a good time.
 
jagerbombme said:
i would have never tried crystal meth, but you cannot tell white crystaline powder from white crystaline powder, and when your smart ass buddy thinks it's cool to bust out a 6" fat gordy. it's not a joke. that shit scared the fucking shit outta me. my heart felt like a clanky car motor going 100mph. my heart rate had to be 200 for more than 15 minutes. i was fucking tweaked for a long time. that was the second to last time i ever snorted anything. thank god for my lady who is now my wife. she helped me stop that shit 10 years ago. haven't touched anything except weed, acid 1 time with her, and aas first cycle now. and never will do anything except aas, and weed ever again.

i might try some oxytocin though, sounds like a good time.

lol @ 'buddy' putting out a 6 inch line of meth.. if my 'buddy' did that to me i'd beat the fuck out of him..
 
i dont like smoking i get to pnoid unless its a really nice strain of bud.
 
fuck man alcohol is so bad for bodybuilding, I hate doing it 3 nights a week :) Would love to try this stuff for a change
 
tommboy said:
fuck man alcohol is so bad for bodybuilding, I hate doing it 3 nights a week :) Would love to try this stuff for a change


you hate doing it 3 nights a week?? well then DO NOT DO IT???

have you not read all the bad shit about this drug in this thread? then you say "would love to try this stuff"

why in the hell would you love to try it? man i just don't understand people
 
karachi183 said:
G is the worst shit away... Stay away if you can

Best advice ive seen on this thread!!!!!!

Ill add my two cents too, ive had 2 friends that have died from the stuff, and a handful that have overdosed and landed in the hospital. Not something I would ever mess around with again. (Did it once). Ive had my fair share of partying, and I dont see why people even use the sh*t.

On a side note, had a friend that I am no longer friends with, use to make the stuff in his bathtub.. Long story, short he was in a hotel mixing up a huge batch, and room was raided by the DEA. Did 5 years in prison! I heard stories how he was acting, when he was going through withdrawls.. Not very pleasant, and was actually quite disgusting what I heard happened.
 
Phaded said:
wow i never knew all this when did it become so hot?

I've read nothing but bad things about G, if you're that worried about calories, don't drink, substituting harder drugs to lose the calories is just self justification.

Also, can you crop off about the bottom inch of your avatar? Your ass is whiter than wayne brady.
 
harbinator said:
I've read nothing but bad things about G, if you're that worried about calories, don't drink, substituting harder drugs to lose the calories is just self justification.

Also, can you crop off about the bottom inch of your avatar? Your ass is whiter than wayne brady.

absolutely not.. my white ass is the best part of the pic.
 
Interesting and informative thread. I just tried G for the first time a couple of weeks back at a party. Just 2 bottle caps full, an hour apart. The first cap hit me quick and I felt great on it, like drunk only better. Very social but motor skills diminished a bit. I basically wanted to just sit and talk and chill. 2nd cap full came on strong and made me ill. I was nautious wanting to puke for quite a while but fought it off. Then I became extremely sleepy. I felt as if I could sleep within seconds of closing my eyes. Later I decided I would never try it again. My friends love it but it just wasn't my thing. It was a short high and made me extremely tired. Maybe I took toom much?

One a side note, at one point a while back this same friend had what he said was just the "B" isolated from the GHB, Butrate. They make it from the all natural nail polish remover called "Once Removed." They were going around to drug stores cleaning out their inventory of this stuff. Anyways, this "B" was awesome, a completely different high than the G. The only downside was you kept burping and would taste the nail polish soapy taste in your mouth everytime.
 
People who are using g to get banged up should stop before it's too late... As italianmuscle27 stated above people die from this garbage and i myself also knew two really good people who died from this shit... If you've never done don't and if u use it for re-creational purposes stop and just do something else if you really have to get banged up...
 
Snarling Force said:
Interesting and informative thread. I just tried G for the first time a couple of weeks back at a party. Just 2 bottle caps full, an hour apart. The first cap hit me quick and I felt great on it, like drunk only better. Very social but motor skills diminished a bit. I basically wanted to just sit and talk and chill. 2nd cap full came on strong and made me ill. I was nautious wanting to puke for quite a while but fought it off. Then I became extremely sleepy. I felt as if I could sleep within seconds of closing my eyes. Later I decided I would never try it again. My friends love it but it just wasn't my thing. It was a short high and made me extremely tired. Maybe I took toom much?

One a side note, at one point a while back this same friend had what he said was just the "B" isolated from the GHB, Butrate. They make it from the all natural nail polish remover called "Once Removed." They were going around to drug stores cleaning out their inventory of this stuff. Anyways, this "B" was awesome, a completely different high than the G. The only downside was you kept burping and would taste the nail polish soapy taste in your mouth everytime.

same shit with me 1 cap you feel great slightly drunk but better and very talkative.. and you fuck like an animal on it..
 
Snarling Force said:
Interesting and informative thread. I just tried G for the first time a couple of weeks back at a party. Just 2 bottle caps full, an hour apart. The first cap hit me quick and I felt great on it, like drunk only better. Very social but motor skills diminished a bit. I basically wanted to just sit and talk and chill. 2nd cap full came on strong and made me ill. I was nautious wanting to puke for quite a while but fought it off. Then I became extremely sleepy. I felt as if I could sleep within seconds of closing my eyes. Later I decided I would never try it again. My friends love it but it just wasn't my thing. It was a short high and made me extremely tired. Maybe I took toom much?

One a side note, at one point a while back this same friend had what he said was just the "B" isolated from the GHB, Butrate. They make it from the all natural nail polish remover called "Once Removed." They were going around to drug stores cleaning out their inventory of this stuff. Anyways, this "B" was awesome, a completely different high than the G. The only downside was you kept burping and would taste the nail polish soapy taste in your mouth everytime.


B isolate my ass....lol. that was likely just pure GBL, or 1,4 BD...............there is no isolate from G that does such thing. There are precursors such as 1,4, furenol, and even GBL which is used to make real GHB can be ingested alone to get a buzz. All three will give you a different feeling. If you were burping and tasting shit you likely just drank pure or watered down gbl........a very strong acid, hence the nail polish remover. and the "all natural" claim is what many places used to put on the GBL products to sell them off as enamel remover, and they worked. That is how gbl was shipped into the states from canada right before the operation webslinger
 
Phaded said:
same shit with me 1 cap you feel great slightly drunk but better and very talkative.. and you fuck like an animal on it..


i've been in your shoes bro when i first started using it in 98-99...........i know what you are thinking bro...............but if you want any kind of advice from me ever, take this.....stay away from it
 
drrman said:
B isolate my ass....lol. that was likely just pure GBL, or 1,4 BD...............there is no isolate from G that does such thing. There are precursors such as 1,4, furenol, and even GBL which is used to make real GHB can be ingested alone to get a buzz. All three will give you a different feeling. If you were burping and tasting shit you likely just drank pure or watered down gbl........a very strong acid, hence the nail polish remover. and the "all natural" claim is what many places used to put on the GBL products to sell them off as enamel remover, and they worked. That is how gbl was shipped into the states from canada right before the operation webslinger

Well as I stated that is just what he told me and you know how that goes... Anways you know your shit bro! I learned something new! Either way whatever it was, IMO it was a lot more enjoyable feeling than the G.
 
Snarling Force said:
Well as I stated that is just what he told me and you know how that goes... Anways you know your shit bro! I learned something new! Either way whatever it was, IMO it was a lot more enjoyable feeling than the G.


Yeh, some have liked it better, but most guys that could get it were flat out DUMB not to make real GHB with it, as you could take 1 liter of GBL and make 1.5 gallons of GHB that was strong enough you could sell for 1k-1500 a gallon. Many just don't know how to convert it into real g, thats why they would just take it straight.

Only bad part about precursors is they need food in your stomach to metabolize into ghb before you get the buzz. So many people that party hard won't eat for hours and the hardcore ones won't eat for days. And they continually dose the precursors trying to keep their buzz, THEN, when they finally decide to eat the next day or hours later when they are done partying, the food hits the stomach, all that shit metabolizes and they go out like a light, wrecking their car, ending up in the emergency room, freeking out friends, you name it.........been there done that
 
gbl was, in my opinion, "lighter" than real ghb. the effects were very similar but the knock out punch was COMPLETELY different. gbl i would fall asleep if i took too much but i wasnt in a comatosed sleep. if someone wanted to wake me, i would wake up and then have to fight the sleep for the next 30 to 40 minutes. and i'll tell you what, when the sleep signals intensify i swear to God i could have broken my elbows from the spasms i would have trying to wake me up while the gbl was forcing me to sleep. if i was standing it was like hyperextending my knees and elbows.


g is not worth it, especially trying to explain to emergency room staff what caused my intoxication. i od'ed in 98 and they had no clue what was wrong. i was being prepped for surgery, cutting me open and filling me with charcoal. i woke up with iv's in both arms and one calf and my brother signing the waivers. clear as day i said whats going on and the doc replied either the surgery was going to save you or you were going to die cause they had no clue what to do. my heart rate for the 2 hours leading up to the "surgery" averaged 24 beats a minute.
 
Snarling Force said:
Interesting and informative thread. I just tried G for the first time a couple of weeks back at a party. Just 2 bottle caps full, an hour apart. The first cap hit me quick and I felt great on it, like drunk only better. Very social but motor skills diminished a bit. I basically wanted to just sit and talk and chill. 2nd cap full came on strong and made me ill. I was nautious wanting to puke for quite a while but fought it off. Then I became extremely sleepy. I felt as if I could sleep within seconds of closing my eyes. Later I decided I would never try it again. My friends love it but it just wasn't my thing. It was a short high and made me extremely tired. Maybe I took toom much?

One a side note, at one point a while back this same friend had what he said was just the "B" isolated from the GHB, Butrate. They make it from the all natural nail polish remover called "Once Removed." They were going around to drug stores cleaning out their inventory of this stuff. Anyways, this "B" was awesome, a completely different high than the G. The only downside was you kept burping and would taste the nail polish soapy taste in your mouth everytime.

OOooo Once Removed LOL.. memories. The stuff tasted absolutely horrible (bitrex) and the high was extremely dirty... However, it was the best thing in the world when you could get BL OTC.
 
Isnt GBL a chemical in paint thinner?? Why anyone would want to injest something like that is beyone me.. GBL, GHB, & DNP.. worst sh*t out there to use in my opinion..
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
Isnt GBL a chemical in paint thinner?? Why anyone would want to injest something like that is beyone me.. GBL, GHB, & DNP.. worst sh*t out there to use in my opinion..


well not really, its used as a cleaner/degreaser in many places that process food as it is biodegradable and doesn't leave any harmful residues

but yes, its an acid and should really not be ingested alone. when you make real g from it though there is no more gbl, it reacts with the NaOH to form an entirely new compound, GHB
 
drrman said:
Yeh, some have liked it better, but most guys that could get it were flat out DUMB not to make real GHB with it, as you could take 1 liter of GBL and make 1.5 gallons of GHB that was strong enough you could sell for 1k-1500 a gallon. Many just don't know how to convert it into real g, thats why they would just take it straight.

Only bad part about precursors is they need food in your stomach to metabolize into ghb before you get the buzz. So many people that party hard won't eat for hours and the hardcore ones won't eat for days. And they continually dose the precursors trying to keep their buzz, THEN, when they finally decide to eat the next day or hours later when they are done partying, the food hits the stomach, all that shit metabolizes and they go out like a light, wrecking their car, ending up in the emergency room, freeking out friends, you name it.........been there done that

Not exactly true. BL and 1,4 worked w/ or w/o food. BL is rapidly converted in the blood and 1,4 is converted the same way alcohol is broken down. However, its true that food does something to the metabolism of the drug... possibly through insulin mediated pathways.
 
TraxZBT said:
Not exactly true. BL and 1,4 worked w/ or w/o food. BL is rapidly converted in the blood and 1,4 is converted the same way alcohol is broken down. However, its true that food does something to the metabolism of the drug... possibly through insulin mediated pathways.


so you disagreed with me then agreed with me.........lol

what you quoted from me is real life personal experience my friend, i don't need any scientific studies to tell me what precursor do and do not do. I have MANY years of use and abuse of this devilish drug

i guess i should have been more clear....yes you will still get a bit of a buzz, but if you stay up partying for a long time and don't eat you will consume more and more and more of the precursors chasing this buzz, then more if you want to try and sleep, then if you do eat there ya are.....all fucked up
 
well... I disagreed that precursors need food to convert to GHB and I agreed that food does something to the metabolism of GHB once it is in the bloodstream.

Well then we are in the same boat. 24/7 for 4 years of my life.. She was good to me, but we had to get divorced... it was for the better.
 
drrman said:
well not really, its used as a cleaner/degreaser in many places that process food as it is biodegradable and doesn't leave any harmful residues

but yes, its an acid and should really be ingested alone. when you make real g from it though there is no more gbl, it reacts with the NaOH to form an entirely new compound, GHB

Thats what I meant, a cleaner.. Still, why would someone want to injest Mr.Clean??

Speak english bro, im not a chemical wizard like yourself.. :) I get the just of it though.. GBL, GHB is bad..
 
TraxZBT said:
well... I disagreed that precursors need food to convert to GHB and I agreed that food does something to the metabolism of GHB once it is in the bloodstream.

Well then we are in the same boat. 24/7 for 4 years of my life.. She was good to me, but we had to get divorced... it was for the better.


LMAO.......im glad i got the divorce too bro........sounds like me and you have been down some of the same paths on this one!!!
 
I spent a couple years using GBL recreationally, then when that precurser disappeared, we moved on to 1,4. I have been using that recreationally for ~4 years now. It is not any worse than any other drug out there. You have to know your limits and stick to them. Out of the 30 or so people that I know that use it fairly frequently, only one ever had a problem with it. He has an addictive personality though and was taking ~40mLs/day for 6 months straight. He went in and out of rehab 4 times for it. We simply cut him off from it and didn't allow him to get any. Then he was fine. None of the rest of us have ever had any issues though. It is my drug of choice. Fairly quick come up, great buzz, and no hangover. I have never bought it "off the street" so to say, and I know for a fact that what I take is exactly what I want, not diluted or dirtied up with anything.

This thread comes up every once in a while and it's always the same thing. G is the devil. That is not true. I am not advocating the use of illegal substances, but when used appropriately, it can be a good time. Most of the deaths related to G were the result of people drinking while on G. This is a no no. You should never drink while using G. And most people who pass out on G, wake up a few hours later feeling fine, similar to passing out from alcohol consumption, but no shitty hangover. There are a lot of horror stories related to G use/abuse, but these still do not even come close to the horror stories involving alcohol.

That's my 2 cents.
 
gab9681 said:
I spent a couple years using GBL recreationally, then when that precurser disappeared, we moved on to 1,4. I have been using that recreationally for ~4 years now. It is not any worse than any other drug out there. You have to know your limits and stick to them. Out of the 30 or so people that I know that use it fairly frequently, only one ever had a problem with it. He has an addictive personality though and was taking ~40mLs/day for 6 months straight. He went in and out of rehab 4 times for it. We simply cut him off from it and didn't allow him to get any. Then he was fine. None of the rest of us have ever had any issues though. It is my drug of choice. Fairly quick come up, great buzz, and no hangover. I have never bought it "off the street" so to say, and I know for a fact that what I take is exactly what I want, not diluted or dirtied up with anything.

This thread comes up every once in a while and it's always the same thing. G is the devil. That is not true. I am not advocating the use of illegal substances, but when used appropriately, it can be a good time. Most of the deaths related to G were the result of people drinking while on G. This is a no no. You should never drink while using G. And most people who pass out on G, wake up a few hours later feeling fine, similar to passing out from alcohol consumption, but no shitty hangover. There are a lot of horror stories related to G use/abuse, but these still do not even come close to the horror stories involving alcohol.

That's my 2 cents.


would be fine argument if the number of GHB users was the sames as the number of alcohol users....................how many million, or should we say billion people in the world drink alcohol, now why don't you tell me how many what "thousand" people use ghB? do you see where your logic is flawed???
 
Pure GHB dosed properly (clean shit) isnt SOO bad.....good enough to be used medicinaly for narcolepsy....problem is people mix it with alchohol (interferes with GHB metabolism, kinda like thr drug coumadin does with other drugs), take too much and take bathtub shit that isnt clean GHB and in wrong doses.

ETOH fucks up a lot of people as well.......
 
DRRMAN, I know you know your sheat. What is the difference between salty G, Chemical G, and Oily G. I have tried all. (dont hate me fore loving them all) Just want to know the difference. Was one of them Just the GBL you were talking about.
 
Dieselicious said:
DRRMAN, I know you know your sheat. What is the difference between salty G, Chemical G, and Oily G. I have tried all. (dont hate me fore loving them all) Just want to know the difference. Was one of them Just the GBL you were talking about.


salty G is the real GHB, it usually has a salty taste, Chemical G as it is often called is furenol or simply 1,4 BD(a precursor) or i have actually seen/heard some call gbl chemical G. As for "oily" g, im not real sure on that one bro, if the "salty" as you called it is made very very strong, or is made with too much NaOH it will have a very oily presentation to it
 
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