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do you believe in God?

p0ink said:
there are too many complexities in life and in nature for this life/experience just to be brought about by accident or chance.
.....or explained with a "God" paradigm.
More answers will come.
 
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Yes, I believe in God, but I stopped going to church a few years ago.
I didn't enjoy it, or get anything out of it, so I figured why kid myself(and God) by going anymore? I'd be further ahead sitting at home reading the bible, unless the priest is a good speaker, talking about current events and how they and how they affect religion, and vice versa.
It'll be there if I ever feel like going again, and that's why it's there in the first place.
 
God used to create humans and wildlife. Then biological evolution created them.

God used to create our moral standards. Then memetic/cultural evolution created them.

God used to create the universe. Then the big bang created it.

Now, we say, God must have created the big bang, right?

God must have done it, because *somebody* must have done it and we certainly don't want to be blamed!
 
p0ink said:
well, my whole thing is that there are too many complexities in life and in nature for this life/experience just to be brought about by accident or chance.
Natural selection seems to work.

The error in your assessment is that you suppose "somebody" must have done it. Our English grammar also supposes that there must be a "subject" in every sentence. Why is that?

"Physical" matter is energy, which is ultimately force exerted on other "physical" matter. Each force resides in the object on which it was applied. Fine, there may be a creator, but this creator was perhaps just a set of proverbial forces still reverberating in the universe.

We have many reasons to believe the earth and society posses properties of "consciousness" analogous to those of humans. Pantheism takes this a bit further. I see it as a philosophically consistent way to still believe in "god".
 
p0ink said:
well, my whole thing is that there are too many complexities in life and in nature for this life/experience just to be brought about by accident or chance.

It did not just come from a great accident, the universe than life evolved the way it did because it is the most energy eficent way.

Cause and effect.
 
yeah. definitely some sort of higher being. but i don't go to church anymore or anything.

i talk to god a lot when i do shrooms.
 
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