Do you agree: Go with strength and bulk would come?

[LoneTree]

Problem:
So many people recommend so many different ways of working out.
There are so many variables: genes, body type, age.
Bulk is a lagging index, i.e. you only see results a few days AFTER you work out.

So I am going with a measurable index: If your strength is increasing, then what you are doing is working, and vice versa.

Do you agree?

 

[dabuffguy]

#1, do you have a question about aas? If not, this goes in the weight training forum.



To some extent, yes you will get bigger as you get stronger.

In fact, I seem to get bigger(lean mass) ONLY as I get stronger. If my weight is going up, so is my strength. It my strength isn't going up, my weight hovers.

 

[LoneTree]

#1, do you have a question about aas? If not, this goes in the weight training forum.



To some extent, yes you will get bigger as you get stronger.

In fact, I seem to get bigger(lean mass) ONLY as I get stronger. If my weight is going up, so is my strength. It my strength isn't going up, my weight hovers.

It is about AAS, because I am talking about 'when you are on'.
It may be different without AAS.

 

[halfcenturian]

I agree, however, you have to mix it up. Heavy weights work different muscle fibers then lighter weights.
I have found that in order to grow you need to do both. Heavy one week, light the next, or some combo along those lines.
Having said that... I definately become stronger doing heavy weights, and put on more mass.
The old saying that you need to lift big weights to get big muscles, is pretty much true.
BUT not all the time. Be sure you get in some 25, 20, 15 reps workouts too.

The Big O - OMEGA - Can best speak to this question.

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[dabuffguy]

It is about AAS, because I am talking about 'when you are on'.
It may be different without AAS.

you didn't specify that, so I wasn't sure.

In the case of using aas, no it doesn't really mean anything.

You can take halo, your bench will go up 60 pounds, but you probably won't gain mor than 2 pounds in 4 weeks.

with anadrol, your bench would go up just as much or more, but gain 25 pounds in 4 weeks.

 

[smtimelevi]

Problem:
So many people recommend so many different ways of working out.
There are so many variables: genes, body type, age.
Bulk is a lagging index, i.e. you only see results a few days AFTER you work out.

So I am going with a measurable index: If your strength is increasing, then what you are doing is working, and vice versa.

Do you agree?

The way I see it, a significant strength gain happens before size starts increasing. Thats been my experience. But in contrast there are some pretty small powerlifters.

If you factor in steroids, the fact of the matter is the drug hasnt fully kicked yet.
In my experience using long estered compounds At the onset of the cycle I would notice a little strength then about week 3 BOOM! Size, strength, bloat the whole shabang

Im not sure of your situation but if you are making strength gains then the size will come. But the ammount of size and the way in wich it come will all depend on diet and what you are taking.

 

[Nelson Montana]

It depends on your type I and type II ratio. In general, the reverse is a better principle. Train for size and strength will follow.

 

[goku_kakarot77]

i do believe muscle adapt to stress, its very hard to find someone that weighs 50kgs bench 200kgs, by the time that 50kg dude is benching that much , he would have more mass, esp in chest,tri and delts, i use 6-8reps for fast twitch fiber muscles and 10-12 for slow twitch fiber muscles, and as long as numbers going up every week, i can see growth in those specific places, eg: when i use to db press 55lbs i had TINY shoulders, now i press 47.5kg each hand (104.5lbs) for 8 reps and my shoulders literally have exploded,when i used to dead lift 120kg for 7 reps i had small forearms /bis/traps/ and no thickness in back now i can dead 230kg for 8 reps (506lbs) and my forearms and bis and traps and back thickness have improved SOOO much, they stick out through my jumper, if u hit one body part to absolute muscle failure for one set its more than enough to trigger growth,the loads of all exercise must go up every week, even y 5lbs or i more rep etc, look at galaxy he works out 3x week (very similar to my routine) chest/delt/tri back/bis llegs/ , and he has ran quite a bit of gear and look at his physique, straight away u can tell he is strong , look at need size he pulls off big numbers too and looks at those muscle groups, he is a massive squatter bencher and dead lifter,just my words of wisdom,

peace

peace

 

[goku_kakarot77]

you didn't specify that, so I wasn't sure.

In the case of using aas, no it doesn't really mean anything.

You can take halo, your bench will go up 60 pounds, but you probably won't gain mor than 2 pounds in 4 weeks.

with anadrol, your bench would go up just as much or more, but gain 25 pounds in 4 weeks.

that 2 lbs from halo would be proper muscle, 2lbs of pure muscle ameks huge difference on body ,its liie putting 2lbs of chicken breasts all over ur body and too me thats alot of muscle if its not fat or water

 

[lookinfit75]

It depends on your type I and type II ratio. In general, the reverse is a better principle. Train for size and strength will follow.

I don't quite understand your response Nelson. What ratio are you talking about? Slow twitch to fast twitch?