Do I have to drop the tren?

[burnthiscorpse]

So my wife came up to me tonight and tells me she cant deal with me anymore(not in the "Im leaving" way), Tells me that for the last week and a half I she doesnt even know me. MEan spirited, more rude comments than usual, short fused, unapproachable, snappy, just a totally different person. I am two weeks into tren.
I am having no sides at all except being alot warmer at times.
I swear to whatever people swear to that I feel NO different. Attitude wise, ect. I'm usually a grouch I suppose. But I really dont see it.
I believe her, but I just dont see it. I dont know whether making a consiouos effort would matter or if i should just drop it. I have read a few posts from guys saying tren totally morphs them into somthing they have never been. Even on a gram of test a week I was fine. The thing that gets me is that if i'm doing it, I'm not aware of it. She definatley would not complain unless she really had reason to.
This ever happen to any of you? Even alchohol never used to turn me into a dick when I used to drink.

 

[bigtravis]

It will do it. I did a full page article for a paper once. RADAR read it. I mentioned a time when we were in public and I made such a specticle of myself that even 4 years later I am still emberassed by it. You don't realize it. But you have to decide bro. Mines gone now.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

It will do it. I did a full page article for a paper once. RADAR read it. I mentioned a time when we were in public and I made such a specticle of myself that even 4 years later I am still emberassed by it. You don't realize it. But you have to decide bro. Mines gone now.

Yeah, I feel totally fine. Actually better than fine. I think I might back the dose down a bit and go eod even to spread it out a bit more and give it a week or two. If she says its the same I will have to drop it. If I'm gonna be a dick I wanna be aware of it.

 

[sonicwaste]

You have to consciously fight it bro. And you can do it.

Lots of people have the same problem, I for one do as well.

Now, typically I am the most mild tempered person. I don't bother easily, I am non confrontational, just overall chill and relaxed and don't have temper issues and am not snappy in the slightest.

Tren is my favorite shit in the world, but it does make me snappy and short tempered, and I have to consciously fight it... If I don't, I have a day like I did today.

I woke up for my morning cardio today. I've been going with my wife lately because she is a teacher and off of work for the summer. So today I wake up and get ready really fast. Today in particular my wife took forever to get ready to go. And I totally flipped out on her for taking so long. After my flip out we were walking to the gym and I was just thinking to myself "did I really just freak out like that, that's fucking stupid".

Then tonight, I was at rehearsal. We hired a new horn section. I was out of town for a couple of weeks and missed some rehearsals. Tonight was my first night back. Started playing a few songs and the horn players were totally stepping on my toes... Doubling some of my keyboard parts and I was getting annoyed. It sounded like shit on this one particular song. I just stopped playing. And my frontman stopped and looked at me and asked why I wasn't playing. I totally freaked out again. "How about you guys go on tour without me this time around, the horn section is playing all my parts, you don't need me." "God damnit this sounds like shit". "I leave for two weeks and you fuckers blah blah blah."

Everyone just sat there and looked at me like a freak. I could tell they were thinking... what is wrong with him??? Then my drummer says... Hey man whatever supplements you are on, you are definitely looking awesome but you are acting werid...

Now in this situation, I was totally right and my band mates knew that... My I exploded and approached the situation like a 4 year old ass hole.

Not a good mental day today for me... But I just have to remember to be cautious and to fight the urge to be like that. When I am conscious of it, I can control it.

Tren has too many benefits body wise to let the negative aggression effects screw you.

 

[slimjim1985]

if the spread of your dosage doesn't help... I would definately drop the tren for a loved one. Your wife comes first as gay as that sounds.

 

[sonicwaste]

if the spread of your dosage doesn't help... I would definately drop the tren for a loved one. Your wife comes first as gay as that sounds.

very true... But it is all mind over matter. You have to remember to make the extra effort to control yourself.

And a lot of people say if you are naturally an asshole AAS will make you a bigger asshole... People say this in defense explaining that AAS "roid rage" doesn't really exist. But I have to disagree... LIke I said before I have no temper issues nor am I ever an asshole... Give me tren and I am totally different.

 

[genetics]

So my wife came up to me tonight and tells me she cant deal with me anymore(not in the "Im leaving" way), Tells me that for the last week and a half I she doesnt even know me. MEan spirited, more rude comments than usual, short fused, unapproachable, snappy, just a totally different person. I am two weeks into tren.
I am having no sides at all except being alot warmer at times.
I swear to whatever people swear to that I feel NO different. Attitude wise, ect. I'm usually a grouch I suppose. But I really dont see it.
I believe her, but I just dont see it. I dont know whether making a consiouos effort would matter or if i should just drop it. I have read a few posts from guys saying tren totally morphs them into somthing they have never been. Even on a gram of test a week I was fine. The thing that gets me is that if i'm doing it, I'm not aware of it. She definatley would not complain unless she really had reason to.
This ever happen to any of you? Even alchohol never used to turn me into a dick when I used to drink.

read carefully bro...

this is assuming she doesn't know you juice...and if she does, all the better.

during this whole period become an actor within. play a game with yourself evaluating your own acting skills on a daily basis. just ACT extra nice to her throughout the day...anytime you spot her, the extra nice mask involuntarily comes on...getting me? just keep at it till the cycle's done...

the above part is actually the secondary one in terms of importance...

once the cycle is through, get back to - " grouch mode " - becoming the natural grouch which you naturally are...you see bro, what is gonna actually happen is...she's gonna start missing that nice guy you WERE when you were juicing ( if she knows you're ON ) or, that guy you were a little while ago...

Please understand...it is all a psychological game with women...irrespective of whether she's your spouse or gf or love or a live in. Play with it. In the bargain, she feels pampered and nice with the new nice guy you've become...and, you get to complete your goals

 

[joe d]

Yeah, I feel totally fine. Actually better than fine. I think I might back the dose down a bit and go eod even to spread it out a bit more and give it a week or two. If she says its the same I will have to drop it. If I'm gonna be a dick I wanna be aware of it.

eod will make it worst. stay with ed if you are going to stay on it. if i where you i would drop the tren unless you dont care what heppens with your woman. if you still plan to try a lesser dose make sure it is ok with her first. tell her you will just drop it if she doesnt want to wait and see. dont fuck your whole life up with this.

 

[folderslide]

i say kick back and have a talk with her. explain that you really don't want to drop the substance, but that you will if she wants you to as she is more important to you. then get onto finding middle ground, such as lowering your dose. explain how you could try to do this, and together you can see if things get better. if you make the situation into a 'team' goal thing where everyone's best interests are being sought, she will be more open to options. not to mention it could well bring you closer, and you still get to juice if things go well.

 

[TheUbermensch]

Does she know you're on the roids? Really, you know better than anyone whether you've been acting differently or not.

I've found if you tell NOBODY you're on roids and don't let anyone find them, they will treat you the same as always. However, if you tell people you're on them, they'll say your behavior is markedly different.

It's because steroids have a stigma of roidrage attached to them and the less-informed will simply assume your behavior is different. Once they've convinced themself that you ARE behaving differently it's easy to look for things to reaffirm their prejudice.


She probably either knows you are on roids or has found them..... Her saying your behavior is different is simply her trying to make you quit them.

 

[anabolic12]

So my wife came up to me tonight and tells me she cant deal with me anymore(not in the "Im leaving" way), Tells me that for the last week and a half I she doesnt even know me. MEan spirited, more rude comments than usual, short fused, unapproachable, snappy, just a totally different person. I am two weeks into tren.
I am having no sides at all except being alot warmer at times.
I swear to whatever people swear to that I feel NO different. Attitude wise, ect. I'm usually a grouch I suppose. But I really dont see it.
I believe her, but I just dont see it. I dont know whether making a consiouos effort would matter or if i should just drop it. I have read a few posts from guys saying tren totally morphs them into somthing they have never been. Even on a gram of test a week I was fine. The thing that gets me is that if i'm doing it, I'm not aware of it. She definatley would not complain unless she really had reason to.
This ever happen to any of you? Even alchohol never used to turn me into a dick when I used to drink.

No sides at all, huh? Side effects are not just negative physical reactions to a substance. Most of the sides people overlook 99% of the time are the psychological effects, which is your case. Your wife tells you all these things and you come and ask us if you should drop the tren. I think you need to re-evaluate your priorities. I promise bro, I’m not trying to be a dick, but I think you know what you should do here

 

[biggntx]

Is this your first time running tren? My first time was CRAZY.....I could write a book on how agg I was all the time. However after really focusing on controlling my temperament I found it not to be too hard....it's all in your mind. If you allow it to take over it will. That's why I asked if it was your first time on tren.....I know for a fact it can get really hard to control temperament the first time around.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

1) yes my wife knows, she supports me
2) its not a matter of ending my relationship, just her being concerned that I seem to be a different person
3) I basically was looking for others input that maybe have had this problem.
4) yes, what I meant when I said I have no sides other than heat, basically the temper thing was to be implied. It figures that THAT would be the side I get.
5) If it meant a real serious problem with me and her, ofcourse i would drop it. Thats a no brainer.
6) I was going to go eod but yes joe your right eod will just fuck with me more. I took yesterday off, but I am going to start back today at the same 50mg and make a concious effort to be nice. Instead of just being myself. I told her to let me know this time if it gets out of hand when it happens, not wait till its been going on for a week and a half.
I really feel no different to myself mentally. If it becomes a problem i'll drop it and go 400mg of deca or NPP instead.

 

[bigtravis]

eod will make it worst. stay with ed if you are going to stay on it. if i where you i would drop the tren unless you dont care what heppens with your woman. if you still plan to try a lesser dose make sure it is ok with her first. tell her you will just drop it if she doesnt want to wait and see. dont fuck your whole life up with this.

I def. agree here. The spikes will make matters worse. Lower ed or drop.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Is this your first time running tren? .

Yep

 

[thebigoz]

There are a few ways to look at this.

1) You now KNOW that you are having sides relating to aggression/temperament. You didn't realize this originally. So now you can CONSCIOUSLY act on them in an effort to ensure you tone it down. The age old 'think before you speak'. Slow down your thought process. Take your time so as not to jump at anyone.
2) You are upsetting your better half. If this continues, you need to drop it. You're lucky that your wife is supportive of your AAS use, so she will at least recognize that you are trying to resolve the sides by dropping the dosage. Judging by your other posts, if that doesn't work then I'm confident you will drop the Tren altogether.


Don't push it. If you OR your wife thinks you need to drop it, then do it. Immediately. The benefits of a healthy relationship far outweigh the use of Tren for a few extra weeks.


Good luck, brother.

 

[QiangDa]

Ahh thats why I like dbol so much...makes me one happy, bloated, easygoing, moonfaced guy! Also one of the reasons I've stayed away from tren...despite its dramatic effects.

 

[Burpees]

So my wife came up to me tonight and tells me she cant deal with me anymore(not in the "Im leaving" way), Tells me that for the last week and a half I she doesnt even know me. MEan spirited, more rude comments than usual, short fused, unapproachable, snappy, just a totally different person. I am two weeks into tren.
I am having no sides at all except being alot warmer at times.
I swear to whatever people swear to that I feel NO different. Attitude wise, ect. I'm usually a grouch I suppose. But I really dont see it.
I believe her, but I just dont see it. I dont know whether making a consiouos effort would matter or if i should just drop it. I have read a few posts from guys saying tren totally morphs them into somthing they have never been. Even on a gram of test a week I was fine. The thing that gets me is that if i'm doing it, I'm not aware of it. She definatley would not complain unless she really had reason to.
This ever happen to any of you? Even alchohol never used to turn me into a dick when I used to drink.

I didn't become a dick, i've always been. When I came off of Tren it was bad for me.. The first few weeks we fought, the last few weeks all I did was hump her and eat her food, when I got off cycle, she left me.. lol.. im about to pay my lawyer 6K.. literally just counted it, on my way to the law office :\

i will be running Tren again.

 

[Fatboy1984]

havnt takin tren yet. But i would just try and control yourself. If you completely can not do that, than i would stop if it was really gonna get you a relationship problem.
How much tren are you takin btw?

 

[Big_Joe]

So my wife came up to me tonight and tells me she cant deal with me anymore(not in the "Im leaving" way), Tells me that for the last week and a half I she doesnt even know me. MEan spirited, more rude comments than usual, short fused, unapproachable, snappy, just a totally different person. I am two weeks into tren.
I am having no sides at all except being alot warmer at times.
I swear to whatever people swear to that I feel NO different. Attitude wise, ect. I'm usually a grouch I suppose. But I really dont see it.
I believe her, but I just dont see it. I dont know whether making a consiouos effort would matter or if i should just drop it. I have read a few posts from guys saying tren totally morphs them into somthing they have never been. Even on a gram of test a week I was fine. The thing that gets me is that if i'm doing it, I'm not aware of it. She definatley would not complain unless she really had reason to.
This ever happen to any of you? Even alchohol never used to turn me into a dick when I used to drink.

The best time I had with tren was when I was living by myself. My wife and I used to flip houses. So for tax reasons, and other thing not marriage related, we were living states away from each other. Then I could do trem with no problem. But I couldn't keep my mouth shut when we were together and I was on tren. I just kept pissing her off and hurting her feelings. For myself my wife is MUCH MORE important then a fee pound more of muscle. So you know it's happening what are you going to do about it. Dump your girl or the tren?

 

[pitbullrocco]

how much longer is your cycle? an 8-12 week period is like seconds in an entire lifetime. sounds like she only supports you 90%, but i can understand her point of view. we all weight out the variables when selecting compounds... tren is powerful and will help you reach goals... at the same time, you're not taking it year around.... just be conscious bro from the time you wake and since both of you recognize the problem, you can both work to work together until the cylec ends... she can help you by telling you when you are getting fused... 'hey, the tren is talking, can i have you back?" lol

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Yep, I'm all good now. Little more concious effort. No my wife supports me 100% not 90%.
Bigger issue now is theres a very slight cloudy streak in my tren and my last 4 injects have left me with sore prop type lumps.

 

[abomb555]

what dosage do people generally run tren e at?

 

[burnthiscorpse]

what dosage do people generally run tren e at?

Generally a little more than Ace if I am not mistaken. 400-700mg week isnt uncommon to see round here at all. If I had known I would react well to tren I definatley would have gotten the E.

 

[bigtravis]

Generally a little more than Ace if I am not mistaken. 400-700mg week isnt uncommon to see round here at all. If I had known I would react well to tren I definatley would have gotten the E.

I would stick with the shorter ace. Than with enanthate. You're having issues now with the tren. So if you had them with the E then they would lag with you a while longer on E than ace.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

I would stick with the shorter ace. Than with enanthate. You're having issues now with the tren. So if you had them with the E then they would lag with you a while longer on E than ace.

Just my attitude while at home really. With a couple days of concious effort its really not as bad as I was making it out to be. Not that I'm going out and getting more tren right now. But next time maybe.

 

[pitbullrocco]

Yep, I'm all good now. Little more concious effort. No my wife supports me 100% not 90%.
Bigger issue now is theres a very slight cloudy streak in my tren and my last 4 injects have left me with sore prop type lumps.

were all the sticks before these last 4 ok? is it crystallizing or something? do you heat it w/warm water before inject? i assume the lumps are going away... maybe try a longer pin and leave it in longer after inject before pulling out. keep us updated bro... happy trenning.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

were all the sticks before these last 4 ok? is it crystallizing or something? do you heat it w/warm water before inject? i assume the lumps are going away... maybe try a longer pin and leave it in longer after inject before pulling out. keep us updated bro... happy trenning.

Every stick before those were totally painless. Was going 50mg ED. Before I knew how I was going to proceed, I took one day off, then shot my left glute(which still itches), then took another day off and yes, I think it was some crystalization because it had gotten quite cloudy. So I baked it last night and it appeared better. I decided to shoot 100mg today with my ml of test e. I feel the spot because it was a 2ml inject, but it has not turned into a prop like knot like the last ones. So I'm crossing my fingers.