Do anabolic steroids assist in burning fat?

[Newmann]

Hey I'm interested in bulking/cutting up just wondering if anabolic steroids would assist in burning fat? Regardless on what the type of steroid - please help me out here will give more info if needed.

 

[SouthernLord]

Steroids help retain lbm while dieting.

What are your stats and what cycle are you considering? How about your diet and routine?

Diet and training are the major factor in fatloss. Aas is just the icing on the cake.

 

[Newmann]

Steroids help retain lbm while dieting.

What are your stats and what cycle are you considering? How about your diet and routine?

Diet and training are the major factor in fatloss. Aas is just the icing on the cake.

Stats are
6ft
190lbs with
15-16% BF
Just started a ketogenic diet
And doing moderate paced walk (approx 30mins) 3times a week and isolating each muscle for every other day,
E.g. Monday chest, Tuesday Legs, Wednesday Biceps etc... Doing 6reps at maximum weight possible, 3sets and 5-6 exercises minimum
Thank you for your interest

 

[Essie]

Like SouthernLord said ... your diet is the MAIN factor determining whether you bulk or cut, and then of course the type of training you do. Do you have any specific products in mind to assist you in obtaining your goal?

 

[jmat2407]

yes they do

+1. Yes it has already been established that through a variety of pathways certain AAS have been to shown to reduce fat.

With that said do not take any AAS and think it will do all the work for you. You still need proper diet and training routine.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Mmm, not as much as you think. Yes, higher androgen levels build muscle , which in turn burns fat, but it's more of a "side effect." Var and tren, more than other steroids, seem to have direct fat burning properties.

 

[jmat2407]

Mmm, not as much as you think. Yes, higher androgen levels build muscle , which in turn burns fat, but it's more of a "side effect." Var and tren, more than other steroids, seem to have direct fat burning properties.

Which are the main two steroids I was referring to when I said some. I just posted this in another thread yesterday I'll dig it up.

 

[stevesmi]

So do you plan on staying on gear the rest of your life? If not, whats the point? If you can't get there on your own or stay there once AAS helped ya get there, then your just gonna lose it again." Zyglamail

or in this case gain it back.

 

[Newmann]

Starting first cycle of Dianabol in two weeks, opinions and info?

 

[stevesmi]

dbol is a poor choice if you are looking to 'cut up'

you ever see one of those bloated fish? thats what i looked like after using it. and I have adex

you need to do more research.

there is an array of info on this site and links. its always a good idea to read up

 

[chesty]

It depends on how you plan to run the dbol. If it o
is used at beginning to jump start your cycle its good if you use it at the end not wise choice for cutting

 

[jmat2407]

steroids that are effective for burning fat are

testerone
masteron
winstrol

^I'd say these three are more effective at preventing muscle catobolism on a calorie deficit rather than actually burning fat.

anavar
trenbelone

^Now those have an actual direct effect on fat cells.

Bold.

 

[Deltoid_87]

Starting first cycle of Dianabol in two weeks, opinions and info?

Dbol does nothing for fat loss, and ull prob gain fat if u don't use an ai.

If u were planning on dbol only, switch it to anavar like previously mentioned var has some excellent fat burning properties.

 

[B3astmde]

I would say rather than them actually burning fat I would imagine a cutting diet and cardio while on would just make you able to lose bodyfat and retain a higher amount of muscle.

 

[rouss]

Shit D-bol is not a fat burning steroid at all. However it is a good musclebuilder . Good for a this person without a lot af bodyfat to begin with

 

[jmat2407]

thats fair, but studies have shown that testerone actually does help burn fat, and its actually been shown to burn fat more effective then anavar, anavar has been shown to have fatburning properties, but test has been shown to be much more effective and carrying higher fat burning properties

No disrespect man but your might want to check out some different studies as your info is wrong.


Int J Obes Relat Metab Disord 1995 Sep;19(9):614-24

Oral anabolic steroid treatment, but not parenteral androgen treatment, decreases abdominal fat in obese, older men.

Lovejoy JC, Bray GA, Greeson CS, Klemperer M, Morris J, Partington C, Tulley R.

Pennington Biomedical Research Center, Baton Rouge, Louisiana 70808-4124, USA.

OBJECTIVE: To compare the effects of testosterone enanthate (TE), anabolic steroid (AS) or placebo (PL) on regional fat distribution and health risk factors in obese middle-aged men undergoing weight loss by dietary means.

DESIGN: Randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled clinical trial, carried out for 9 months with primary assessments at 3 month intervals. Due to adverse blood lipid changes, the AS group was switched from oral oxandrolone (ASOX) to parenteral nandrolone decaoate (ASND) after the 3 month assessment point. SUBJECTS: Thirty healthy, obese men, aged 40-60 years, with serum testosterone (T) levels in the low-normal range (2-5 ng/mL).

MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: Abdominal fat distribution and thigh muscle volume by CT scan, body composition by dual energy X-ray absorptiometry (DEXA), insulin sensitivity by the Minimal Model method, blood lipids, blood chemistry, blood pressure, thyroid hormones and urological parameters.

RESULTS: After 3 months, there was a significantly greater decrease in subcutaneous (SQ) abdominal fat in the ASOX group compared to the TE and PL groups although body weight changes did not differ by treatment group. There was also a tendency for the ASOX group to exhibit greater losses in visceral fat, and the absolute level of visceral fat in this group was significantly lower at 3 months than in the TE and PL groups. There were significant main effects of treatment at 3 months on serum T and free T (increased in the TE group and decreased in the ASOX group) and on thyroid hormone parameters (T4 and T3 resin uptake significantly decreased in the ASOX group compared with the other two groups). There was a significant decrease in HDL-C, and increase in LDL-C in the ASOX group, which led to their being switched to the parenteral nandrolone decanoate (ASND) after 3 months. ASND had opposite effects on visceral fat from ASOX, producing a significant increase from 3 to 9 months while continuing to decrease SQ abdominal fat. ASND treatment also decreased thigh muscle area, while ASOX treatment increased high muscle. ASND reversed the effects of ASOX on lipoproteins and thyroid hormones. The previously reported effect of T to decrease visceral fat was not observed, in fact, visceral fat in the TE group increased slightly from 3 to 9 months, although SQ fat continued to decrease. Neither TE nor AS treatment resulted in any change in urologic parameters.

CONCLUSIONS: Oral oxandrolone decreased SQ abdominal fat more than TE or weight loss alone and also tended to produce favorable changes in visceral fat. TE and ASND injections given every 2 weeks had similar effects to weight loss alone on regional body fat. Most of the beneficial effects observed on metabolic and cardiovascular risk factors were due to weight loss per se. These results suggest that SQ and visceral abdominal fat can be independently modulated by androgens and that at least some anabolic steroids are capable of influencing abdominal fat.

 

[Essie]

Interesting ... very, very interesting!

 

[stevesmi]

part of the reason dbol puts on fat isn't necessarily the water weight thing. but it will increase appetite. when i ran dbol/deca/test i put on a lot of fat and mass. i was eating for 2 people. if i went out to dinner and ordered a chicken dinner, i would always order 2.. my appetite was out of control.

 

[jmat2407]

NOTICE above 300mgs tend to be the dose required to start testerones fat burning properties

Hm that is interesting. But as you stated my study didn't report doses, nor did it report exactly how much fat was lost so its hard to compare to your study. However it is safe to assume since they were running a trt dose of test they were more than likely running a lower dose of var as well.

Either way we would we need a separate study on var to see if its fat burning properties vary in dosage as well. Also your graphs are hard to see but the study said it was for 20 weeks, at what week did noticeable fat loss begin? Keep in mind the var was only ran for 12 so if something burns the same, or more, amount of fat in less time it would make it a superior fat burner.

It is a shame we cant get any new test studies like these with todays science.

 

[gymjunkie09]

part of the reason dbol puts on fat isn't necessarily the water weight thing. but it will increase appetite. when i ran dbol/deca/test i put on a lot of fat and mass. i was eating for 2 people. if i went out to dinner and ordered a chicken dinner, i would always order 2.. my appetite was out of control.

I second this.....my appetite was outta control on same cycle, craved carbs in paticular. I put on 18lbs in 4 weeks but it was pretty sloppy, doubt ill ever touch d-bol again, and next time i run deca I will be adding mast for sure

 

[Newmann]

Thanks for the support everyone, greatly appreciated at the moment I have an option of either stanozolol or dbol, not quite sure which one to go with yet, but according to most these comments dbol doesn't seem too look too good for me at the moment