Do all orals negatively affect lipds?

[artificialaspirations]

I constantly hear of the damage that var can due to one's lipid values. Recently I've read of winny doing the same thing, i.e. raising the bad, lowering the good.

Question: Does Dbol, drol, turinabol, or even proviron do the same?

If so, to what extent?

 

[FRONT2BACKJACKED]

toremifene and exemstane increase your good cholesterol and help out lipids and prostate

out of all those proviron made my prostate/lipids

anavar over proviron though

drol and dbol are full of sides, tbol way more mild and better imo, but drol rule for size

 

[halfcenturian]

NO! In my experience the only oral that caused me any real problems was Drol. I hate that shit. Var is an awesome steroid. As is Dbol. Those two can be managed with supps... Not to worry. Tbol is virtually harmless unless you OD. In any case have your blood work done post cycle to measure your liver and lipid levels.

 

[needtogetarmy]

It really depends on how your body reacts. Some people get their levels hammered with small doses of winny and var and others are fine. If you do a search of posts covering this topic you will see that we all react differently.

IMO the best thing to do is to get PCT blood work done and see how your body reacts.

I also recommend a multi vitamin and a few other supps to help you out like fish oil, red yeast rice and policosanol. I use all of the following and have always had HDL levels in the 60's and LDL under 100. I get slight changes during my PCT blood work (winny and tbol) but it has always bounced back for me.

 

[gjohnson5]

Is the question will lipid be raised to problematic levels or is the question will they rise in any measurable amount?

The question obviously depends on the person but I would be very surprised if one went to Quest Diagnostics and got a blood test. Then did 6 weeks of var and on the last dosage their good lipids rose...

 

[artificialaspirations]

quaetion was meaning any measureable amount on the other compounds like dbol.

 

[Bill Llewellyn]

Yes, they do (maybe barring replacement doses of testosterone undecanoate). How much they effect your lipids is going to depend on your own personal response, but some type of shift is virtually assured.

 

[Harleymarleybone]

I constantly hear of the damage that var can due to one's lipid values. Recently I've read of winny doing the same thing, i.e. raising the bad, lowering the good.

Question: Does Dbol, drol, turinabol, or even proviron do the same?

If so, to what extent?

Any oral worth its anabolic salt is going to knock the shit out of your HDL at thre least, and there is really nothing you can do about it, except get off. That's one reason people cycle - staying in an unhealthy cardiovascular condition longer creates greater risks.

 

[Harleymarleybone]

quaetion was meaning any measureable amount on the other compounds like dbol.

Easy to find some facts on Google:

"Dbol messes up my cholesterol bad. Last time I did a cycle with dbol, my HDL was at a "4" after 4 weeks. My doctor was freaking out saying she had never seen anything like that in her life. I told her why it was all out of whack and she punched me in my arm. LOL." http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php?p=591682

 

[FRONT2BACKJACKED]

Is the question will lipid be raised to problematic levels or is the question will they rise in any measurable amount?

The question obviously depends on the person but I would be very surprised if one went to Quest Diagnostics and got a blood test. Then did 6 weeks of var and on the last dosage their good lipids rose...

good post.......