Dnp

[sk*]

My first cycle, I followed Spellwin's 7 Day Inferno to the letter... carb depleting for 3 days prior and I also took in lots of fruit and drank Pepsi for carbs throughout the cycle. This cycle was by far THE MOST EFFECTIVE, as I sweat buckets and lost the most fat.
The weight stayed off, and I actually lost 5 more pounds before the next cycle.

14 days later I did another cycle. This second cycle diet was just a fruitless 60/30/10 carbs/pro/fat ration at lbm 10x, using potatoes and oatmeal for carbs. I did not carb deplete beforehand. I sweat plenty, but not near as much as the 1st cycle. Same batch of dnp, same dosage and cycle time. I lost maybe half of what I lost on the 1st cycle. I wonder if the increased weight loss on the first cylce was due to the extra heat generated by the fructose carbs, the carb depleting, or wonder if the the second and subsequent cycles tend to decrease in effectiveness... I also had a mild case of hives (an allergic reaction). Benadryl did nothing. Claritin finally knocked it out almost immediately.

14 days later, I started the 3on/4off approach and the results were similar to the second cycle, but only minor sweating and sluggishness. Andy13 was right, at least for me... I also took 2grams/day of Quercitin to hopefully reduce the risk of another allergic reaction, but a few days after the last dnp dose, the itching started. Again, Claritin zapped it.

No more DNP adventures for now, but may try 200mg/day for 14 days if I ever decide to try it again.

Well the lower bodyfat you have the more dnp you will need to get even lower, so that could have been one reason you didn't lose as much in the second and third cycles. How were your calories from cycle to cycle?

-sk

 

[thelegacy]

I can tell you one thing about it.

Customs sent me a letter just the morning say that they were going to hold mine for me. Wasn't that nice of them. They even told me I could come by an pick it up any time I would like.

Nautica

Nautica--thats sucks man--but i got to tell ya that i laughed damn hard when i read your quote

 

[ripper2]

instead of eating so many carbs, would it be more beneficial to eat a diet much higher in protien with moderate carbs and low fat?

say a 50/30/20 Protein/Carbs/Fat diet? this way you are still getting enough glucose for the minimal ATP production, yet you are still consuming the protein requirements to get enough amino acids to feed your muscles. is this even necessary since DNP is relatively muscle sparing?

 

[bigrand]

high protein, low carbs

 

[Citruscide]

seriously, there are just as many "experts" on this board that will say you don't need to have a diet consisting of 50% carbs.

Probably, but in my experience... and the experience of the guy who invented crystal dnp... 50% carbs is better.

C-ditty

 

[sk*]

Probably, but in my experience... and the experience of the guy who invented crystal dnp... 50% carbs is better.

C-ditty

Ouch, 50% carbs and expect to be a walking shower at least on 400-600mg dnp. Less calories and the less you will feel like shit. A lot of these "gurus" who said they like high carbs have retracted their statements.

Btw, noone invented dnp.

-sk

 

[the nature boy]

Probably, but in my experience... and the experience of the guy who invented crystal dnp... 50% carbs is better.

C-ditty

okay then, define "better". 5%? 50% quantify please.

 

[drveejay11]

Its like this......
Carbs are broken down in glycolysis and the krebs cycle to produce ATP as energy. DNP uncouples the ETC inhibiting the creation of ATP from carbs, thus carbs become usless in terms of producing energy, so carbs become basically worthless. The body compensates for the extreme loss of ATP by breaking down fat and using it to try to get ATP, even though it still only gets about 4 net, it trys hard cuz the body is starving, so it burns a shitload of fat indesperation for glucose to use for ATP. Eating more carbs just takes away from the fat burning process, and makes you hot as hell in the process from all the H+ ions (i think) that are released.
So, carbs on DNP has no real benefits, only detriments.

Nicely stated bro.....God you brought back BAD memories of Biochemistry

 

[ripper2]

Its like this......
Carbs are broken down in glycolysis and the krebs cycle to produce ATP as energy. DNP uncouples the ETC inhibiting the creation of ATP from carbs, thus carbs become usless in terms of producing energy, so carbs become basically worthless. The body compensates for the extreme loss of ATP by breaking down fat and using it to try to get ATP, even though it still only gets about 4 net, it trys hard cuz the body is starving, so it burns a shitload of fat indesperation for glucose to use for ATP. Eating more carbs just takes away from the fat burning process, and makes you hot as hell in the process from all the H+ ions (i think) that are released.
So, carbs on DNP has no real benefits, only detriments.

so would you recommend a diet consisting pretty much entirely of protein? low carbs, low fats with maybe some fruit thrown in to help keep liver glycogen levels up? would fruit even be necessary with glycerin?

 

[bigrand]

do you mean glycerin or glycerol?
DNP will be effective no matter what amount of carbs you eat, the only real noticable difference is that the more carbs you eat, the hotter you get, so to be more comfortable, cut back on carbs. They are pointless, considering you dont get any of the energy normaly produced in glycolysis.
Some fruit is good every once and awhile....