Disagreement about GH`s effect on injury,do you have an opinion?..

[Zss]

I have talked to a lot of people about GH`s effect in repair damaged connective tissue. And there are really a lot of diffrent opinions if GH really may help you get rid of pain.

My own experience is that i had very much pain in my lower back before my 10 weeks GH+Primo+Var cycle. I dont really know what this pain was, and i dont know why its gone..But it is really gone now.

Do YOU think GH may help you heal pain in any of these tissues?

JOINT, TENDONS, NERVES or pain in MUSCLES.

Please state youre opinion.

Thanks

 

[bbigman2000]

Hi, Ok well, I think there may be some truth in it especially at high dosing, However my own personnal experience tells me that it doesnt do shit for my joint or tendons

Infact all it has done is cause me pain in my chest (skeletal pain)

bbig

 

[Zss]

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I know more strong opinions are out there!

 

[Zyglamail]

Many prolotherapists are using GH in their prolo injections to promote cartiledge regrowth in some serious cases. Keep in mind these injections are directly into the damaged joints/tendons/ligaments.

 

[Zss]

Zyg,
What do you think of sub injectrions then.. What kind of dose and for how long should GH be used if the intention is to "get rid of pain"..Any thought about that?

Thanks for youre input

 

[liftsiron]

GH never seemed to help me with joint pain even close to the wat that deca does. And GH always causes carpel tunnel to flare up so bad with me that I can't even sleep at night.

 

[Zyglamail]

Personally I think anyone aside from a practitioner educated in prolotherapy should be injecting GH with the intention of healing tendon/ligament/cartiledge damage. First and formost healing requires circulation and nutrients. If you had a strain/sparing prior to cycle and then went on cycle its hard to say if any of the healing was due to the items included in your cycle. I was being treated for tendon sprains and taking subq GH and I did not notice any difference in healing as opposed to when I had treatments and no GH. Personally I think your situation was coincidence.

 

[Zss]

Very interesting to hear bros.
Because everywhere i read about GH, and usually also when i talk to people about it , they always says that GH is superb to heal tendon/join pain.. Maybe this is only an old myth..

But i have TALKED to some bros that CLAIMS 100% sure that GH and AS in combination has heald theire pain in both schoulder and elbow. Both of them had tried diffrent therapy before without any good result. Strange..?

Thanks

 

[Zyglamail]

Keep in mind connective tissue is largely water and as we get older and put stress on these fibers they lose water. GH causes sodium retention and hence can cause more water retention in these tuees. AAS can also cause bloating and water retention further helping as well. I have no doubt GH helps but I think far to many people think they can take GH for a couple months and get ride of a chronic injury and I just dont buy it, sorry.

 

[drjus]

as per my surgeon who just repaired my rupture of my pectoral major: tendons are the closest thing to dead tissue in your body...they have very little blood flow within them and thus very little nutrients are delivered to them to help them heal...that is why tendon/ligament injuries take so long to heal...the only thing you can do to help the healing of ligaments is make sure proper circulation to the area injured and rest

 

[Zyglamail]

as per my surgeon who just repaired my rupture of my pectoral major: tendons are the closest thing to dead tissue in your body...they have very little blood flow within them and thus very little nutrients are delivered to them to help them heal...that is why tendon/ligament injuries take so long to heal...the only thing you can do to help the healing of ligaments is make sure proper circulation to the area injured and rest

Not to get off the subject here but these are the kind of things that piss me off about modern medicine. Your doc in the same breath says circulation and rest. Rest does NOT promote circulation, activity does. The reason connective tissue doesnt heal is because most doctors inhibit healing and circulation but telling people to use ice and anti-inflamatories to get the swelling down, both of which take reduce or eliminate healing.

 

[drjus]

i questioned this and you are thinking off base a little bit zyg....by circulation he didnt mean excess circulation, massage and heat and movement will not help it heal much if any faster...he meant just while stabilizing it dont cut off circulation with whatever method of stabilization you are using....remember for a ruptured tendon to become fully healed it takes about 5 months....you are only icing for the first few hours really and then only here and there if swelling persists

 

[Zyglamail]

Inflamation is a key element in the cascade of healing events that occurs, this is tought to med students but they somehow forget this once they get a diploma. excessive swelling in generally only a concern in cases where we are dealing with fluid in the lungs, allergic reactions etc. Ice constricts capilaries and greatly reduces blood flow. It also stiffens the connective tissue. Sure, inflamation is painfull, but so is getting a bone reborken if it sets wrong, that doesn mean we should try and avoid it.

 

[Citruscide]

First off, I don't think you NEED GH to help heal injuries... active recovery, use of heat, etc is the best way, IMO to get things working...

I've tried it out, and I did notice a strengthening of my shoulder... less pain, etc. My back also felt better after only one Sereno Kit. I would love to get back on the stuff.

C-ditty

 

[Zss]

Last UP!

Anyone else tried GH when they had pain?

Thanks.