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Did anyone trip you up in life?

Razorguns said:
no.

i've always from day one did things my way. how i wanted. with me in control.

has served me well.

but i have been f'd over by more than enough loser musicians. lots of years lost there.

Now i'm back to doing things my way again. Thank god.

r

Ain't that the truth.

Rock musicians, for the most part, are fucking flakes. That's been my experience, at least.
 
My ex, too. Less so for the ten years of shit and lies he dumped on me (the man is a manipulative bastard and a pathological liar, it's a disease, he has serious mental issues), more so for the fact he's STILL lying to our son and ends up just making the kid angry, confused and hurt. He can't get to me anymore, so consequently doesn't care who ELSE he hurts just as long as he hurts the people that matter to me. He doesn't care about destroying his relationship with his son if it means in the process he destroys my relationship with my son. How fucked up, twisted and sad is that?
 
musclemom said:
My ex, too. Less so for the ten years of shit and lies he dumped on me (the man is a manipulative bastard and a pathological liar, it's a disease, he has serious mental issues), more so for the fact he's STILL lying to our son and ends up just making the kid angry, confused and hurt. He can't get to me anymore, so consequently doesn't care who ELSE he hurts just as long as he hurts the people that matter to me. He doesn't care about destroying his relationship with his son if it means in the process he destroys my relationship with my son. How fucked up, twisted and sad is that?

He sounds like a mental case.
 
the_alcatraz said:
He sounds like a mental case.
I don't know, maybe. He has issues, but they are such a deeply ingrained part of his personality that he can't see them himself anymore. I know one thing, he really believes that it doesn't matter how you play the game (the game being any facet of life/home/work) as long as you win (get what you want). It seems to be a trait that runs through his entire family.

I suspect part of him sees our failed marriage as the biggest game he ever lost (despite the fact that I let him off virtually scott free in the divorce -- maybe that was adding insult to injury, I don't know). Anyway, he always was a very sore loser.
 
musclemom said:
I don't know, maybe. He has issues, but they are such a deeply ingrained part of his personality that he can't see them himself anymore. I know one thing, he really believes that it doesn't matter how you play the game (the game being any facet of life/home/work) as long as you win (get what you want). It seems to be a trait that runs through his entire family.

I suspect part of him sees our failed marriage as the biggest game he ever lost (despite the fact that I let him off virtually scott free in the divorce -- maybe that was adding insult to injury, I don't know). Anyway, he always was a very sore loser.

That sounds like bitter hate intertwined with wishes of rigor mortis for your ex-husband.
 
musclemom said:
I don't know, maybe. He has issues, but they are such a deeply ingrained part of his personality that he can't see them himself anymore. I know one thing, he really believes that it doesn't matter how you play the game (the game being any facet of life/home/work) as long as you win (get what you want). It seems to be a trait that runs through his entire family.

I suspect part of him sees our failed marriage as the biggest game he ever lost (despite the fact that I let him off virtually scott free in the divorce -- maybe that was adding insult to injury, I don't know). Anyway, he always was a very sore loser.

I think your ex and my ex were bad apples from the same tree. LOL

It's all good...

I try hard not to look at it as him tripping me up (ya'll have all heard so I wont go into it) but rather, life molding me into something better than I was before so that I can do the great things that I was meant to do... my other screenname "model of iron"... I like to think of myself as razor sharp and unbelievably strong - think on how a sword is fashioned.

'Course that doesn't mean that I am not human and that I don't get hurt because I still spend a great amount of time hurting...

It's ok as I do believe the quote in my signature: "Our character is not defined by our circumstances alone, but rather, how WE CHOOSE to react to them."

The bad part of that double-edged sword is that when I fall, I blame myself for allowing it to happen.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
I think your ex and my ex were bad apples from the same tree. LOL

It's all good...

I try hard not to look at it as him tripping me up (ya'll have all heard so I wont go into it) but rather, life molding me into something better than I was before so that I can do the great things that I was meant to do... my other screenname "model of iron"... I like to think of myself as razor sharp and unbelievably strong - think on how a sword is fashioned.

'Course that doesn't mean that I am not human and that I don't get hurt because I still spend a great amount of time hurting...

It's ok as I do believe the quote in my signature: "Our character is not defined by our circumstances alone, but rather, how WE CHOOSE to react to them."

The bad part of that double-edged sword is that when I fall, I blame myself for allowing it to happen.

Problem with failed marriages or relationships is that once all the smoke clears away, it is human nature to blame yourself. However, ultimately it's not your fault if he was a manipulative genius who entertained ideas like deception and deceit for his own sick pleasure.
 
the_alcatraz said:
That sounds like bitter hate intertwined with wishes of rigor mortis for your ex-husband.
I hope you don't think that of me?! My feelings toward him are, at the most, pity. He makes me sad because he won't forgive and move on: He's done so much damage to his relationship with his son because he won't let go of his anger towards me, that's an insult to his current wife, and so selfish.

My son and I are both sad that we (my ex and his wife, me and my husband, and all of our kids) can't all sit down and have a nice civilized meal and chuckle over shared memories (my husband and I can do that with his ex). My son is particularly upset that he has to play parental politics especially now that he has a new wife and his father is still pulling the same stunts after nearly 10 years of divorce.
 
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