Dianabol & Clomid

[rayray123]

I am looking at getting into Roids to stick on some weight as regardless of the high calorie carb and protein diets, gym workouts and even fatty foods I eat, my weight doesn't shift and I'm far too small for my liking.

Now, I was looking at a regime of 25mg of Dianabol tabs per day for 8 weeks then in Weeks 6-8 also taking Clomid.

Would you say that was a good thing to do or should I stack something else in? Was looking at Proviron but unsure of how well it would go. This would be my first time on Roids so wouldn't want a heavy stack, but definitely need to go up from the pathetic 8stone I am now to around 10 stone.

Seriously, I don't want criticism just genuine help, I'm that small now its become a huge problem and I have worked in the gym for almost 2 years and nothing, as I said even while controlling my eating.

I am focused on roids, I just want you guys to ensure I don't make no rookie mistakes and end up dead, or sterile!

 

[rayray123]

Oh and I did think about test enanthate, but I can't inject myself, I'd shit my pants - I was okay with the idea until I read how its got to be so deep inside of you that you can't draw blood, and seeing as I have little muscle (ass too) I'm gonna end up hurting myself or something - at least thats my fear and I can't alleviate that!

Just reading around elite-fitness frums and somebody said you can DRINK injectable dbol?!?!?! That to me sounds preposterous but if its true, can I therefore drink test enanthate?

 

[needtogetaas]

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[rayray123]

Huh?

 

[nzrodney]

Oh and I did think about test enanthate, but I can't inject myself, I'd shit my pants - I was okay with the idea until I read how its got to be so deep inside of you that you can't draw blood, and seeing as I have little muscle (ass too) I'm gonna end up hurting myself or something - at least thats my fear and I can't alleviate that!

Just reading around elite-fitness frums and somebody said you can DRINK injectable dbol?!?!?! That to me sounds preposterous but if its true, can I therefore drink test enanthate?

OMG definately NO.

 

[rayray123]

Okay cool, well forget that - what about the rest of my posts? Really seeking serious advice here.

 

[got2getripped]

Thats a rediculously long pct, I wouldn't do it without some test. My first cycle was test/dbol 10-15mg a day and probably my best. I got crazy gains then. I used clomid and HCG for PCT only about a week or two. Those were the days.

just realized you put weeks 6/8 taking clomid I thought at first it was taking it for that many weeks. I need to learn to read better

 

[lilj888]

whats ur height and age

i have taken dbol only at 25mg a day for 6 weeks and it was pretty freakn good. took/taken nolva for 4 weeks so far and i plan on stoping withen next week when stuff runs out. gained 23 lbs lost about 6lbs

 

[lilj888]

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i kno how u feel reading this stuff gets to be to much. I never read books and ppl tell me i should read. But the shit i read here is like equviliant to reading a book a month

 

[IrishHandGrenade]

Forget the dbol. Do 250mg of Test a wk for 8-10 weeks. Also, if you choose to use clomid for your pct you'd do it after you stopped taking the test not for the last two weeks.

 

[*The_West*]

Forget the dbol. Do 250mg of Test a wk for 8-10 weeks. Also, if you choose to use clomid for your pct you'd do it after you stopped taking the test not for the last two weeks.

the guy weighs 112 lbs and you really think he should do a cycle?
to the OP-im not saying this to be a prick, im really not, but if you dont know how to eat, train and rest to gain muscle without steroids, anything you gain with them you will lose afterwards anyway.

 

[IrishHandGrenade]

the guy weighs 112 lbs and you really think he should do a cycle?
to the OP-im not saying this to be a prick, im really not, but if you dont know how to eat, train and rest to gain muscle without steroids, anything you gain with them you will lose afterwards anyway.

LOL, didn't realize how much he weighed.

Bro, Definitly DO NOT mess with steriods at this point in your life.

 

[lilj888]

the guy weighs 112 lbs and you really think he should do a cycle?
to the OP-im not saying this to be a prick, im really not, but if you dont know how to eat, train and rest to gain muscle without steroids, anything you gain with them you will lose afterwards anyway.

he ways 140 but who knows how tall he is to tell if that is small or not on a guy that is 5'2-5'4 that is a decent frame size

 

[swole]

I am looking at getting into Roids to stick on some weight as regardless of the high calorie carb and protein diets, gym workouts and even fatty foods I eat, my weight doesn't shift and I'm far too small for my liking.

Now, I was looking at a regime of 25mg of Dianabol tabs per day for 8 weeks then in Weeks 6-8 also taking Clomid.

Would you say that was a good thing to do or should I stack something else in? Was looking at Proviron but unsure of how well it would go. This would be my first time on Roids so wouldn't want a heavy stack, but definitely need to go up from the pathetic 8stone I am now to around 10 stone.

Seriously, I don't want criticism just genuine help, I'm that small now its become a huge problem and I have worked in the gym for almost 2 years and nothing, as I said even while controlling my eating.

I am focused on roids, I just want you guys to ensure I don't make no rookie mistakes and end up dead, or sterile!

Question. And don't bite my head off because it's purely well-intentioned...

Did you ever step back and think, "maybe I need a new approach to eating and training for size?"

Do you think after gaining whatever it is you will from the dbol that you can keep that size with your current training/diet regime? Or will you simply rely on steroids from here on out to make up for what is lacking...

 

[*The_West*]

he ways 140 but who knows how tall he is to tell if that is small or not on a guy that is 5'2-5'4 that is a decent frame size

he says he is 8 stone. 14 lbs in a stone, 8x14=112

 

[Cardinal Slin]

I love these posts

 

[Varsearch]

Forget the dbol. Do 250mg of Test a wk for 8-10 weeks. Also, if you choose to use clomid for your pct you'd do it after you stopped taking the test not for the last two weeks.

How long after stopping Test enthanate would you start PCT ? Also what would be a solid PCT ?

 

[rayray123]

Hey guys just a quick follow up to say im not ignoring the messages, having problems with my net - should be okay by tonight when I will reply properly - all your help is seriously appreciated. I'm 20 years of age and 8 stone which is 112lbs. I'm 21 years old. I think that amount of test mentioned before was far too much and for the person who said i should learn how to eat and train first, i have mentioned briefly that i did do this for a very long time, I even have a personal trainer who set me a diet also. Lately my doctor has told me i need around 300grrams of carbs a day and two full servings of protein which seems excessive but i have been doing it for almost three months, still not even ONE POUND of weight gain.... my body merely doesnt put anything on!

But yeah will reply proper and regards to doing too much PCT, the clomid i only during weeks 6-8 - thats a period of two weeks at the end of the anabolics.

Again cheers guys, so much appreciated!

 

[10001110101]

bro try 3000 calories a day with 200grams of that being protein. however you can get it in your body, dont' worry too much about eating fatty foods etc, you will put on a few pounds of fat in the process but this is a necessary part of growth in a natural state. keep training intensity high, lift heavy weights with powerful explosive compound movements. avoid cardio and high repetition weight work.

you will most likely feel nauseated after every meal and dread eating each meal, but you will get used to it in a few weeks time. or you could take dbol gain 15 pounds and lose 12 of them after pct when you go back to your current eating habits.

 

[nzrodney]

bro try 3000 calories a day with 200grams of that being protein. however you can get it in your body, dont' worry too much about eating fatty foods etc, you will put on a few pounds of fat in the process but this is a necessary part of growth in a natural state. keep training intensity high, lift heavy weights with powerful explosive compound movements. avoid cardio and high repetition weight work.

you will most likely feel nauseated after every meal and dread eating each meal, but you will get used to it in a few weeks time. or you could take dbol gain 15 pounds and lose 12 of them after pct when you go back to your current eating habits.

+1

 

[*The_West*]

Hey guys just a quick follow up to say im not ignoring the messages, having problems with my net - should be okay by tonight when I will reply properly - all your help is seriously appreciated. I'm 20 years of age and 8 stone which is 112lbs. I'm 21 years old. I think that amount of test mentioned before was far too much and for the person who said i should learn how to eat and train first, i have mentioned briefly that i did do this for a very long time, I even have a personal trainer who set me a diet also. Lately my doctor has told me i need around 300grrams of carbs a day and two full servings of protein which seems excessive but i have been doing it for almost three months, still not even ONE POUND of weight gain.... my body merely doesnt put anything on!

But yeah will reply proper and regards to doing too much PCT, the clomid i only during weeks 6-8 - thats a period of two weeks at the end of the anabolics.

Again cheers guys, so much appreciated!

make your mind up mate. are you just telling us what we want to hear?
here is how it is-most personal trainers are stupid, they have no knowledge of bodybuilding. they dont know how to teach someone to train for hypertrophy. you would be much better getting training tips from people on this site, people who actually train to gain muscle. it would be a lot cheaper aswell.
also, the vast, vast, majority of doctors also have no knowledge of bodybuilding. they plain just dont understand it. two full serving o fprotein? what is "a serving" of protein? and you think what he suggested is excessive? you need to be eating at least 5 meals a day with 40-50 grams of protein in each one. i have a feeling you are not eating nearly enough, this is why you are not gaining weight.
pct with a long estered test starts two weeks AFTER your last poke, not two weeks BEFORE the end of your cycle. that would be useless, would hinder your gains for the last two weeks and not help you recover at all.
it is hard for ecto's to gain weight (i know this, i was in your boat, i started lifting at 140lbs and through sheer determination, hardwork and eating right i have made it to 190lbs, it can be done) i cannot stress this enough, if you do not learn to train, diet and rest to build muscle without steroids, anything you gain with them you WILL lose after your cycle anyway, leaving you back at square one.
trust me, you can gain weight naturally. steroids are not the "magic beans" you imagine them to be.