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Dermacrine !??

Ulter said:
Posted by Primordial Performance:
Since ATD resembles testosterone’s structure, it competes for the aromatase enzyme, only it cannot be converted to estrogen like testosterone can. However, all steroidal based inhibitors tend to mimic the action of there parent compound, which means they can inhibit steroidogenesis from the hypothalamus and testis by directly interacting with the androgen receptor (AR) and lowering LH & FSH release.

Yes, I still believe steroidal based inhibitors can eventually limit pituitary release of LH & FSH, and eventually down-regulate the estrogen receptors needed for healthy HTPA function. You don’t see a negative effect like this with the AI’s we’ve chosen for dermacrine, which have been shown to enhance fertility across the whole endocrine axis. (references provided earlier)

Ulter said:
You're already in way over your head making a product that has so many flaws we aren't even going to list them all. We'll just let the marketplace decide.


Dermacrine has so many flaws? Please enlighten us.


Ulter said:
Neither product is any more than a component of PCT. There may be some value to your product. We examined the clinical research on your ingredients in 2003 and found it lacking. This is why we asked you to post it. There simply isn't any and we know that already. But just because no one has laid out the cash for clinical research doesn't mean a product is no good or doesn't do what it says. So until I see a couple hundred men posting it's the end all to PCT, I'll reserve judgment.

Fair enough, keep your eye on the Dermacrine threads.

-Pp
 
" ATD hurts fertility and it even appears that it promotes homosexuality….."

Did anyone else laugh when they read this?
 
Ramcononer said:
" ATD hurts fertility and it even appears that it promotes homosexuality….."

Did anyone else laugh when they read this?
ya a spit water all over my screen when i saw that.it was more of a joke and thats how i took it.makes some sense though.most act like girls when taking it.lol
 
It's human nature to be wary of new things. The nature of this business makes us paranoid of scams. Duh roid store. If a new product arrives and the top dog starts insulting the heart and soul of EF ( Ulter and Mac ), who spend hours and hours answering the same questions over and over, giving great advice, not just pushing their products. I seriously have to question the judgement of the top dog. Show them respect and I guarantee you'll get it in return, continue to show disrespect and I guarantee very few customers will surface. Free PR advice.
 
Ulter said:
Posted by Primordial Performance:
Since ATD resembles testosterone’s structure, it competes for the aromatase enzyme, only it cannot be converted to estrogen like testosterone can. However, all steroidal based inhibitors tend to mimic the action of there parent compound, which means they can inhibit steroidogenesis from the hypothalamus and testis by directly interacting with the androgen receptor (AR) and lowering LH & FSH release.




Your juvenile tactics of denying what you've posted shows your desperation in the face of hard evidence.


Bro I don't care if make every product in our store and try to sell it. When we introduced Glucorell there were 50+ competitors within a year. There are 3 left. Knock yourself out. You're already in way over your head making a product that has so many flaws we aren't even going to list them all. We'll just let the marketplace decide.


Do you know I was one of the original authors of modern day PCT 5 years ago? Do you know I've been doing this for over 20 years?
As far as which product is better for PCT...


Neither product is any more than a component of PCT. There may be some value to your product. We examined the clinical research on your ingredients in 2003 and found it lacking. This is why we asked you to post it. There simply isn't any and we know that already. But just because no one has laid out the cash for clinical research doesn't mean a product is no good or doesn't do what it says. So until I see a couple hundred men posting it's the end all to PCT, I'll reserve judgment.



Ulter just said "Call me father, son"....


LMAO!!! :FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol:
 
wags8 said:
It's human nature to be wary of new things. The nature of this business makes us paranoid of scams. Duh roid store. If a new product arrives and the top dog starts insulting the heart and soul of EF ( Ulter and Mac ), who spend hours and hours answering the same questions over and over, giving great advice, not just pushing their products. I seriously have to question the judgement of the top dog. Show them respect and I guarantee you'll get it in return, continue to show disrespect and I guarantee very few customers will surface. Free PR advice.
i here about mac and ulter answering ?? and all bro but come on do a search 40% of there answers end in "use this that we sell or that that we sell"
so yes they help out a lot but saying they are not pushing a product come one thats clearly not that true.

now dont get me wrong ulter and mac are great guys with a lot of know how but lets not try to pin a "just trying to promote his product" tag on this new guy when he is just doing the same thing ulter and mac do.any one can see the guy knows some shit and any one can see so dont ulter and mac.of corse
the advice ether one of the 3 of them are going to involve there products.

lets not forget who started attacking who first around here.

primordialperformance
came here and mad some clams there product can do certain things like raise test or be used for pct and things like that and its pretty clear some one dont like that.

there are people testing the new product out so really lets just see if it works.lets see if it can do what they say it can do.if it cant ill be the first to say its crap and the guy promoting it dont know his ass from his elbow
but for now it seems promising to say the lest.

lets not take this to far last time we had talks like this people started disappearing and I for one would like to stick around.

I think we should just wait till the test come back.see what people that have taken this new product have to say about it and stop attacking each other.
keep it clean jelly bean lol

this ant a popularity contest.
 
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OK man. I'll let the big dogs fight it out. I still love you for giving me the free plat a while back when I thought you were gonna bomb me.
 
wags8 said:
OK man. I'll let the big dogs fight it out. I still love you for giving me the free plat a while back when I thought you were gonna bomb me.
i try not to bomb or red so much any more.i like to spread the love now. :)
 
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