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Dermacrine !??

IMO, ATD is too strong of an AI that will lead to a plethora of problems and eventually lead to suppression of the HTPA.

Speaking of spot light…

Have blood or saliva tests ever been ran on AIFM to test product efficacy?

You're very late to the game. AIFM has been sold for over a year. None of what you claim are "a plethora of problems and eventually lead to suppression of the HTPA" have been reported in any of over a thousand men who have used it. In fact, 99% of those that use it found it to be the best estrogen solution they've ever used.
We GAVE AWAY 50 AIFM to testers on 3 boards. We collected all the data and user feedback. AND THEN we sold the product. We didn't start selling it and then ask people to report their results. Our test was far more extensive than what you are doing. And oh BTW all the results are on this and another board. As they came in they were posted.

Here are some of the testimonials about AIFM. All of your claims about this product are false. Most of the research you're posting to support your side is not even relevant. You seem like a very intelligent person. You just haven't spent enough time on this subject to have a clear view of facts.



http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6994327&postcount=29



http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6601076&postcount=259



http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6440053&postcount=1



http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6441505&postcount=9



http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6444962&postcount=27



http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6452802&postcount=46



http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6482382&postcount=64



http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6531126&postcount=94



http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6602578&postcount=110



http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6492960&postcount=1



http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6492982&postcount=3



http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6493881&postcount=9



http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6500265&postcount=21



http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6512542&postcount=31



http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6497914&postcount=16



http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6292321&postcount=6



http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6295490&postcount=13



http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6324215&postcount=22



http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6339601&postcount=25



http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6387371&postcount=37



http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6470411&postcount=71



http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6918607&postcount=1



http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6517906&postcount=37



http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6517950&postcount=38
 
al420 said:
AIFM is by FAR the best legal supplement I have used. Not sure how it 'competes' w/ PP's product, but as for an AI is is the beast I have ever used, period.
cool.I have never used it,and i dont know how this new product is going to work
but they shore are shelling out good money on showing that it dos.I am not shore aifm and this new product even need to be going head to head here.
it seems if you like taking nolva and clomid then you should take aifm to combat the sides from them.and if you just want to take detra then take it alone .
i dont know but that seems to be what is being said here.now as far as detra working alone that is yet to be proved but i think thats the clam and they are shelling out the cash to try and show it threw test.
 
needtogetas said:
cool.I have never used it,and i dont know how this new product is going to work
but they shore are shelling out good money on showing that it dos.I am not shore aifm and this new product even need to be going head to head here.
it seems if you like taking nolva and clomid then you should take aifm to combat the sides from them.and if you just want to take detra then take it alone .
i dont know but that seems to be what is being said here.now as far as detra working alone that is yet to be proved but i think thats the clam and they are shelling out the cash to try and show it threw test.

very good point

AIFM and Dermacrine are apples/oranges
 
needtogetas said:
I have not had a orange in so long.
oranges give me cotton mouth.. i prefer apples...

nice post ulter, i kept scrolling down to try and get past all the damn thread links..

this is a very interesting argument. soooo.. bump
 
jmead said:
oranges give me cotton mouth.. i prefer apples...

nice post ulter, i kept scrolling down to try and get past all the damn thread links..

this is a very interesting argument. soooo.. bump
my kids go threw a few bags of apples a month.
 
jmead said:
oranges give me cotton mouth.. i prefer apples...

nice post ulter, i kept scrolling down to try and get past all the damn thread links..

this is a very interesting argument. soooo.. bump
Normally I'd just post a couple but I was trying to make the point. It's ridiculous at this point for ANYONE (anthony) to make a claim that AIFM isn't a great product, or doesn't work. Next week they'll be trying to disprove gravity.
 
Ulter said:
You're very late to the game. AIFM has been sold for over a year. None of what you claim are "a plethora of problems and eventually lead to suppression of the HTPA" have been reported in any of over a thousand men who have used it. In fact, 99% of those that use it found it to be the best estrogen solution they've ever used.
We GAVE AWAY 50 AIFM to testers on 3 boards. We collected all the data and user feedback. AND THEN we sold the product. We didn't start selling it and then ask people to report their results. Our test was far more extensive than what you are doing. And oh BTW all the results are on this and another board. As they came in they were posted.

Here are some of the testimonials about AIFM. All of your claims about this product are false. Most of the research you're posting to support your side is not even relevant. You seem like a very intelligent person. You just haven't spent enough time on this subject to have a clear view of facts. [/url]

Ulter,

For the record: We had several [private] testers perform blood and saliva testing during product development. This allowed us to tweak the formula before releasing it to the public. Analyzing anecdotal reports of “nipple sensitivity” is not what we call “data collection.”

Based on your reply, you have not performed blood or saliva tests on individuals. That is negligent at best.

I have no doubt AIFM is “strong shit” and I’m sure plenty of bros here stand behind it. I simply doubt that it is the ideal product to use for PCT.

I think what everyone wants to know here is – what works better for PCT, Dermacrine or AIFM?

If you have any pertinent argument here please post it. Otherwise, no more desperate counterfactual statements. M’kay?

-Pp
 
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