Dermacrine - The New Legal PCT Product - KICKS ASS!

[Primordial Performance]

What I gathered form your post is it raises endogenous testosterone levels if applied to stomach/legs and is suppressive to your HPTA if you apply to shoulders?

That doesn't make any sense, that's saying two completely different things. Either it's suppressive or it's not suppressive, if it's action is systemic like PP claims then it wouldn't have properties based on where you apply it.

PP or N2 can you clear this up?

Jonnywest,

What this means is that when you apply it to the shoulders it converts to testosterone before it even gets to the blood stream. So in that sense, your basically using a low dose test cream. This can obviously be suppressive.

We encourage PCT users to apply the product to areas on the skin that are not so concentrated with steroidogenic enzymes, such as the stomach and legs. This way the DHEA can get into the system to exert its positive effects on GH, IGF-1, cAMP, ect. While the original dermacrine works well for PCT, the effect of DHEA on endogenous testosterone production can be biphasic in that it may eventually have a suppressive effect on LH & FSH release by its eventual peripheral conversion to other androgens. (one of the reasons we recommend only 4 weeks use)

We’ve addressed the potential issue in the new version of “Dermacrine Sustain” by removing the DHEA/preg and increasing the dosage of the phyto-based AI’s. This will improve the products ability to increase LH & FSH even more, and serve more as a long-term solution.

Tshoot,

I hope Ive answered some of you questions here. I would suggest testing for both E2, E2 and testosterone if you plan on using the new Derma. You wont need to use anything with it, and one bottle lasting 26 days should be enough to get you back on track, especially considering your fast clearing esters.

-Pp

 

[needtogetaas]

What I gathered form your post is it raises endogenous testosterone levels if applied to stomach/legs and is suppressive to your HPTA if you apply to shoulders?

That doesn't make any sense, that's saying two completely different things. Either it's suppressive or it's not suppressive, if it's action is systemic like PP claims then it wouldn't have properties based on where you apply it.

PP or N2 can you clear this up?

derma works great for pct but you can only use it for so long.4 weeks on then you have to take time off.no it is not suppressive by any means at all if used for 4 weeks.on the contrary As a benefit to all men, Dermacrine has the unique ability to "regenerate" the bodies own hormonal production. Rather than having a suppressive effect on the endocrine system (like most testosterone boosters), Dermacrine rejuvenates enzymatic pathways for continued benefits that are realized even after cessation of use.so if used
for 4 weeks its perfect for pct or a test booster but if used longer it can be suppressive....I know other products like aifm say you can take it as long as you like but thats bull shit you cant...it will suppress if used to long....
thats why we have mad a new derma that can work hand in hand with this derma to be used for as long as you like.most of the people that have used derma "boost" the derma we have now have had only one problem with it."they dont want to stop using it" well we like to think we care about our customers so we are not going to just tell them "ya you can take it for ever "
just so we can make more sales of them.no we came up with a solution for them .derma sustain.A deferent version that they can use for as long as they like and stay safe.
some people like to do a long cycle and then do pct and then get right back on,well others like to do a cycle then take a long time off derma sustain can give them added pct or a good boast threw there long times off if they like.

some people are just using derma boost for a test booster all by its self witch test have proven it can do but they dont want to stop taking it well derma sustain can help them with that to.

we came up with just one more tool our customers can use as they see fit,because we saw they need for it.If our customers have a need we will do our best to full fill it rather then cover it up and cause them harm just because we want them to keep using some thing for longer then they should.

we have many new weapons for the body builder,aas user,trainer,wight lifter,and any one in a muscle competitive sport to add to there arsenal coming out as often as we can and were and when we see the need for
them...we also welcome all our customers and future customers to come to us
with any and all of your needs and we will work to meet them.

 

[JohnnyWest]

Jonnywest,

What this means is that when you apply it to the shoulders it converts to testosterone before it even gets to the blood stream. So in that sense, your basically using a low dose test cream. This can obviously be suppressive.

We encourage PCT users to apply the product to areas on the skin that are not so concentrated with steroidogenic enzymes, such as the stomach and legs. This way the DHEA can get into the system to exert its positive effects on GH, IGF-1, cAMP, ect. While the original dermacrine works well for PCT, the effect of DHEA on endogenous testosterone production can be biphasic in that it may eventually have a suppressive effect on LH & FSH release by its eventual peripheral conversion to other androgens. (one of the reasons we recommend only 4 weeks use)

We’ve addressed the potential issue in the new version of “Dermacrine Sustain” by removing the DHEA/preg and increasing the dosage of the phyto-based AI’s. This will improve the products ability to increase LH & FSH even more, and serve more as a long-term solution.

Tshoot,

I hope Ive answered some of you questions here. I would suggest testing for both E2, E2 and testosterone if you plan on using the new Derma. You wont need to use anything with it, and one bottle lasting 26 days should be enough to get you back on track, especially considering your fast clearing esters.

-Pp

Ok I got ya, I was assuming it's actions were only systemic.

 

[dougmug]

Dermacrine sucks ass!

 

[needtogetaas]

Ok I got ya, I was assuming it's actions were only systemic.

 

[mm107]

damn, got some good replies on this thread, anyone interested read the above stuff

 

[ZGzaZ]

damn, got some good replies on this thread, anyone interested read the above stuff

MM, where you been? Havent heard much from you recently.

 

[mm107]

MM, where you been? Havent heard much from you recently.

got a promotion at work, (so the first couple weeks dont want to push it on here, they have my working my ass off)

ill be on here more once i impress the big guys to let me have some slack again, but that should take no time =]

 

[boston789]

I'm just worried its gonna be suppressive and I'm gonna crash after my PCT....

 

[needtogetaas]

I'm just worried its gonna be suppressive and I'm gonna crash after my PCT....

4 weeks will not be suppressive bro.it works