dermacrine as a bridge

[skaman007]

hi at 42 im sick of losin gains no matter wat pct i do ,ive tried them all serms ,hcg .ais .test boosters etc....i have low natty test off cycle of only bout 350 ...i was considerin using bridge.phytoserms etc for 8-12 weeks inbewteen aas cycles...but you know wat im thinknig wats the pint i may as well use dermacrine for 8 weeks as a bridge...needto mentioned a cycle like this would be ok to recover from in a threead 2 yr ago....
1-14 500mg test e
1-4 20mg beastdrol
10-14 tren tfo...
14-22 dermacrine
22-36 repeat 1st cycle
then do a full pct..........
i may keep gains then instead of wastin cash on test boosters ..then have 3 months of everything ...

 

[Gamer2Be08]

Dermacrine wont be enough.
Maybe dermacrine and SARM S4.. That would keep gains

 

[needtogetaas]

Dermacrine wont be enough.
Maybe dermacrine and SARM S4.. That would keep gains

As a bridge for 4 weeks between cycles Dermacrine alone will most deff be enough and I have had hundreds of people run that exact same cycle he has laid out. In fact I used to sell it as a stack way back in the day and people loved it!!!!!!!!!!!.

Now I own the exclusive selling rights to the only topical dermacrine you can get. Rlssupplements.com is where it sells under the ruthless.inc brand name. When PP was going to drop there topical dermacrine I was more then happy to pick the ball up and run with it for them. Its a product I have been standing behind for 6 years now. Long before I ever had a product line of my own I was talking about how great this product is.

Now would using sarms work even better? Hell yes of course it would but the dermacrine will work on its own very well for this reason. TO sustain gains well allowing the rest of your body to clear out and get a rest. Want to stay otc? Well then combine dermacrine with bridge and fuck ya now you're talking!!!!

 

[C0LUMB0]

BRIDGE , GEAR , ANCIENT STRENGTH ,DERMACRINE + SARM S-4 = Win Win Win !

Then back on-cycle

 

[skaman007]

As a bridge for 4 weeks between cycles Dermacrine alone will most deff be enough and I have had hundreds of people run that exact same cycle he has laid out. In fact I used to sell it as a stack way back in the day and people loved it!!!!!!!!!!!.

Now I own the exclusive selling rights to the only topical dermacrine you can get. Rlssupplements.com is where it sells under the ruthless.inc brand name. When PP was going to drop there topical dermacrine I was more then happy to pick the ball up and run with it for them. Its a product I have been standing behind for 6 years now. Long before I ever had a product line of my own I was talking about how great this product is.

Now would using sarms work even better? Hell yes of course it would but the dermacrine will work on its own very well for this reason. TO sustain gains well allowing the rest of your body to clear out and get a rest. Want to stay otc? Well then combine dermacrine with bridge and fuck ya now you're talking!!!!

so needto...i could run the dermacrine after my 16 week test e cycle right up to my next test e cycle.??.....so say, 12 weeks on dermacrine would be ok,or should i run pct for 4 weeks after aas cycle .then derma for 4 weeks...sustain 4 weeks ,dermacrin e 4 weeks...and so on till next aas cycle???

 

[Voijn]

some body needs to link me the actual dermacine product, Gamer pmed with a link when i press it sends me to NTBM.com but cant find it there?

Anybody able to explain what dermacine is?

 

[Nelson Montana]

I feel Derma and/or Sarms work great more as an "extention" to a cycle. It's the perfect "taper off" giving your body a chance to readappt to being natural. They also work nicely as a "Pre cycle" stack as a way of getting a jumpstart with out too much suppression. But both Derma and Sarm WILL cause some suppression over time.

So at some point if you rally want to clean out and recover you should go off completely. I would not recommend going from one cycle to the next using Derma and SARMS since it'd be unlikely you'd be recovered and that would make it that much tougher to recover from the following cycle.

This is why BRIDGE is so perfect. It gives similar effects and is 100% NON SUPPRESSIVE. In fact it HELPS recovery.

Add some UNLEASHED and GEAR you're more enhanced than any "natty" can hope to be.

That, is the better choice in the long run if maintaining HPTA is the objective.

 

[skaman007]

I feel Derma and/or Sarms work great more as an "extention" to a cycle. It's the perfect "taper off" giving your body a chance to readappt to being natural. They also work nicely as a "Pre cycle" stack as a way of getting a jumpstart with out too much suppression. But both Derma and Sarm WILL cause some suppression over time.

So at some point if you rally want to clean out and recover you should go off completely. I would not recommend going from one cycle to the next using Derma and SARMS since it'd be unlikely you'd be recovered and that would make it that much tougher to recover from the following cycle.

This is why BRIDGE is so perfect. It gives similar effects and is 100% NON SUPPRESSIVE. In fact it HELPS recovery.

Add some UNLEASHED and GEAR you're more enhanced than any "natty" can hope to be.

That, is the better choice in the long run if maintaining HPTA is the objective.

i will try bridge nelson but in all honesty i dont think it will come near dermacrine.....maybe i will try .after my pct....bridge 4 wks ,.then derma ...then bridge //then derma ,,,etccc.that should help me recover better.

 

[Nelson Montana]

i will try bridge nelson but in all honesty i dont think it will come near dermacrine.....maybe i will try .after my pct....bridge 4 wks ,.then derma ...then bridge //then derma ,,,etccc.that should help me recover better.

Come near Derma, how? Derma will elevate T a bit more, but it's an exogenous elevation which equals some supression. So it's a trade off. For true clearing out and recovery, BRIDGE is the way to go. If you're not so concerned with recovery you can use Derma or even BRIDGE with a mild andro such as Proviron.

 

[needtogetaas]

so needto...i could run the dermacrine after my 16 week test e cycle right up to my next test e cycle.??.....so say, 12 weeks on dermacrine would be ok,or should i run pct for 4 weeks after aas cycle .then derma for 4 weeks...sustain 4 weeks ,dermacrin e 4 weeks...and so on till next aas cycle???

Well now I never said that bro!!!!! lmao... No for what he is going to use the dermacrine fore it will work perfectly fine. He is going to run a short blast then do a 4 week dermacrine bridge and then do another 4 week blast and then do pct.

Now for what you are talking about I would run the cycle, then do a full pct, then jump on bridge or dermacrine or even both for 4 weeks. Then after that you can do 4 weeks of sarms, then jump back on bridge again for another 4 weeks and then jump into a cycle. Or really you can just run the bridge from the time pct ends all the way up to the next cycle and then just through in 4 week blast of ether dermacrine or sarms in between.

But for his 2 little 4 week blast cycles the 4 week dermacrine bridge between is fine. It is more like a cycle extension/bridge. Using the dermacrine as a way to extend the cycle well still giving your liver,cholesterol, other things a brake from the orals. The dermacrine would be plenty enough boost in androgen levels to keep all the gains sustained well letting the body get a brake. Then jump back on for another blast.


The original design was a 4 week oral bulk cycle
weeks
1-4 deaselbolan 1 cap 3 times a day
1-4 tren-tfo 1 cap 3 times a day
1-4 forged liver support ( now N2guard is even better)
4-8 dermacrine 5 pumps every day
8-12 beastdrol 1 cap 3 times a day
8-12 katanadrol ( old version) 1 cap 3 times a day
12-16 forged post cycle, sustain alpha,unleashed and post cycle combo or what the heck over for a good pct.

That was the original design of the cycle. quick 4 week oral bulking cycle, the a bridge, then a 4 week oral cutter.

The same concept can be used now but using the compounds we have to work with these days. We have come a long way and have a lot more bad ass products to work with. So the cycle can look like this ( this is with all the trimming and goodies lol)

weeks
1-4 deiselbolan 1 cap 3 times a day
1-4 hcgenerate 3 cap am 2 cap pm
1-4 n2guard full dose every day
2-8 need2slin 1 cap 3 times a day 30 mins before meals
4-8 bridge 1 cap 3 times a day
4-8 dermacrine 5 pumps am and pm
8-12 beastdrol 1 cap 3 times a day
8-12 katanadrol 2.0 250mg every day
8-12 hcgenerate 3 cap am and 2 caps pm
12-16 forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and pm
12-16 unleashed and post cycle 3 caps of each every day
12-16 forged steal full dose every day

I mean you do not have to use all of this but I am just saying the foundation of the idea is clear. The things you can add onto it to make it better are endless.

 

[needtogetaas]

some body needs to link me the actual dermacine product, Gamer pmed with a link when i press it sends me to NTBM.com but cant find it there?

Anybody able to explain what dermacine is?

go to rlsesupplements.com bro. Dermacrine use the discount code ruthless10 for a 10% discount code and also free shipping to. DO not buy any other version of this product. ONly the topical works and converts to testosterone/ adrogens. The oral version covert to mostly estrogen and who the hell wants that?

 

[bren565]

I feel Derma and/or Sarms work great more as an "extention" to a cycle. It's the perfect "taper off" giving your body a chance to readappt to being natural. They also work nicely as a "Pre cycle" stack as a way of getting a jumpstart with out too much suppression. But both Derma and Sarm WILL cause some suppression over time.

So at some point if you rally want to clean out and recover you should go off completely. I would not recommend going from one cycle to the next using Derma and SARMS since it'd be unlikely you'd be recovered and that would make it that much tougher to recover from the following cycle.

This is why BRIDGE is so perfect. It gives similar effects and is 100% NON SUPPRESSIVE. In fact it HELPS recovery.

Add some UNLEASHED and GEAR you're more enhanced than any "natty" can hope to be.

That, is the better choice in the long run if maintaining HPTA is the objective.

hey nelson,

bridge has pregenolone in it so cant it be slightly suppressive?

 

[needtogetaas]

I feel Derma and/or Sarms work great more as an "extention" to a cycle. It's the perfect "taper off" giving your body a chance to readappt to being natural. They also work nicely as a "Pre cycle" stack as a way of getting a jumpstart with out too much suppression. But both Derma and Sarm WILL cause some suppression over time.

So at some point if you rally want to clean out and recover you should go off completely. I would not recommend going from one cycle to the next using Derma and SARMS since it'd be unlikely you'd be recovered and that would make it that much tougher to recover from the following cycle.

This is why BRIDGE is so perfect. It gives similar effects and is 100% NON SUPPRESSIVE. In fact it HELPS recovery.

Add some UNLEASHED and GEAR you're more enhanced than any "natty" can hope to be.

That, is the better choice in the long run if maintaining HPTA is the objective.

Exactly and I feel the same way. That is why I was saying that the dermacrine would only be used as a cycle extention/bridge between the two short oral cycles. It is really more of a way to extend the cycle but at the same time allow the body to get a brake from the orals. See be and nelson are almost always on the same page

for longer you deff cant stay on bridge or sarms forever between cycles and expect to get a full recovery when doing so. YOu have to do a pct after the cycle. Or you can do like nelson said and use ether sarms or dermacrine as a pre pct and then do pct,then jump on bridge till the next cycle. I dont see any problem with tossing in another blast of sarms or dermacrine if its going to be a long time before your next cycle. I think nelson would say the same.

 

[needtogetaas]

i will try bridge nelson but in all honesty i dont think it will come near dermacrine.....maybe i will try .after my pct....bridge 4 wks ,.then derma ...then bridge //then derma ,,,etccc.that should help me recover better.

Yes that is a fine Idea bro, or just stay on the bridge the whole time and just through in a few blast of the demracrine. Remember the more birdge you buy the cheaper it gets. We give a great deal on a 3 pack. 3 bottles of bridge will last you 3 months and the price after discount is about 75 bucks. That is more then enough to get you from one cycle to the next. Add in a dermacrine bllast and a sarms blast and you are good to go..

You can also look into GHRP and or CJC from OpResource wholesale melanotan peptides public, MT1, mt I, mt2, mtII, pt141 combine a little of these peptides with some bridge and I can promise you you wont lose a once of muscle unless you stop eating. In that case it be your own damn fault lolol.

 

[Voijn]

Think ill go for the version that converts to estrogene.

 

[needtogetaas]

hey nelson,

bridge has pregenolone in it so cant it be slightly suppressive?

No my man. The pharmacological dose of this needed to have any effect on thehypothalamus are well beyond what is in bridge. 25mg twice a day at minimum is what would be needed. Bridge has 5mg a day at a full dose. This barley makes the cut off for a effective does needed to cause neurological stimulation. Jut enough to cause a slight nero stimulation was added. It will give you a bit of a good feeling of well being and that is it. Then the added fadoga will insure lh is firing on all cylinders that and the reservatrol is lowering estrogen ever so slightly making a perfect synergy.

 

[needtogetaas]

Think ill go for the version that converts to estrogene.

Great plan man. Cut out the middle man and get a pair of your own tits to play with. Screw having to chase down woman for that shit!!!!

 

[Voijn]

Right on babe! how´d you figure out ?

 

[needtogetaas]

Right on babe! how´d you figure out ?

I am needto man, I know everything there is to know. Except What the rest of the thing resounding the Vagina is for. I have yet to figure this one out. I wont give up the search though guys.

 

[Voijn]

hmm.. This isent you needto? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqXi8WmQ_WM
The first thing you say is so way punk rock

 

[needtogetaas]

hmm.. This isent you needto? YouTube - Show Me Your Genitals
The first thing you say is so way punk rock

lmao btw i was only joking about the veja thing. I love and respect all woman.

 

[Nelson Montana]

No my man. The pharmacological dose of this needed to have any effect on thehypothalamus are well beyond what is in bridge. 25mg twice a day at minimum is what would be needed. Bridge has 5mg a day at a full dose. This barley makes the cut off for a effective does needed to cause neurological stimulation. Jut enough to cause a slight nero stimulation was added. It will give you a bit of a good feeling of well being and that is it. Then the added fadoga will insure lh is firing on all cylinders that and the reservatrol is lowering estrogen ever so slightly making a perfect synergy.

Exactly. That amount of preg WILL NOT surpess.

As needto said, you can use Derma in-between the use of of orals for a little break, but after PCT, you've GOT to get off and stay off for a while in order to recover. That's where BRIDGE come sin. It gives a lot of the "juiced " feeling but allows the body to recover. Add some GEAR and you'll really remain in an anabolic state.

And yes, needto loves all women -- well, all women with big tits at least.

 

[needtogetaas]

Exactly. That amount of preg WILL NOT surpess.

As needto said, you can use Derma in-between the use of of orals for a little break, but after PCT, you've GOT to get off and stay off for a while in order to recover. That's where BRIDGE come sin. It gives a lot of the "juiced " feeling but allows the body to recover. Add some GEAR and you'll really remain in an anabolic state.

And yes, needto loves all women -- well, all women with big tits at least.

I love my wife too, and she only has inty bity titties ...