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Stryker1992

Stryker1992

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I have been about 3 weeks into my Derma sustain and post cycle unleashed pct regimen and I must say I feel pretty damn good. My strength and motivation are still awesome.

MY only issue is my sex drive! It is through the fucking roof. I was so horny the other day I was looking in the escort service section of a local rag and thinking about hooking up! As a matter of fact I called but the bitch did not answer. I am jerking off like mad!

Something must be working!!!! Normally PCT is a fucking nightmare, I have no sex drive and I want to kill myself!!!
 
FREAK *grin*

That's awesome bro... glad to hear. It's great to not have to use clomid, right?

So in the past, I'm assuming you "crashed" at some point? How far into PCT did you crash?
 
Stryker1992 said:
I have been about 3 weeks into my Derma sustain and post cycle unleashed pct regimen and I must say I feel pretty damn good. My strength and motivation are still awesome.
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Hey, I googled "post cycle unleashed" and got two shitty irrevelent links (although one was to elitefitness). Any help w/ that? I'm curious. :evil:
 
lil-swole said:
Hey, I googled "post cycle unleashed" and got two shitty irrevelent links (although one was to elitefitness). Any help w/ that? I'm curious. :evil:
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Those are two products sold by Protein Factory... check out their website.
 
lil-swole said:
Hey, I googled "post cycle unleashed" and got two shitty irrevelent links (although one was to elitefitness). Any help w/ that? I'm curious. :evil:
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bro, i love the avatar

www.proteinfactory.com

This is the first time I am trying any of this shit so far, so good and...i have no affiliation with any of them.

I can tell you I am sick of suffering during pct so I looked for something different. I have been juicing for 10 years!
 
njmuscleguy said:
FREAK *grin*

That's awesome bro... glad to hear. It's great to not have to use clomid, right?

So in the past, I'm assuming you "crashed" at some point? How far into PCT did you crash?
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Hey bro, usually I do crash and it is usually failr early on..i will keep you posted.
 
Stryker1992 said:
I have been about 3 weeks into my Derma sustain and post cycle unleashed pct regimen and I must say I feel pretty damn good. My strength and motivation are still awesome.

MY only issue is my sex drive! It is through the fucking roof. I was so horny the other day I was looking in the escort service section of a local rag and thinking about hooking up! As a matter of fact I called but the bitch did not answer. I am jerking off like mad!

Something must be working!!!! Normally PCT is a fucking nightmare, I have no sex drive and I want to kill myself!!!
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I know what your saying about the sex drive... After about 3 days on the Sustain I felt like a friggin rabbit.

-Pp
 
Any updates?
 
What boosts sex drive more - sustain or original derma? I ran a bottle of original derma for kicks just before my current cycle and it gave me a mild/modest libido boost, but not as strong as you guys got.
 
njmuscleguy said:
Any updates?
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Hey bro, I finished up about 5 weeks of pct. I felt pretty good during the entire process. I did have issues with motivation and some strength loss but it is hard for me to evaluate becuase I have had some pretty intense schedule shifts as well. My strength and mass have decreased a bit but I think there was water wieght loss involved. Overall, I have preferredit to any other PCT I have done. I will most likely stick with the process. Usually I get depressed real bad post cycle but this did not happen. I am very happy about that!

I do really hate being off, such a difference!

YOU?
 
KD1 said:
What boosts sex drive more - sustain or original derma? I ran a bottle of original derma for kicks just before my current cycle and it gave me a mild/modest libido boost, but not as strong as you guys got.
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I ran original derma for 2 weeks shortly after my last cycle, kinda like a bridge into PCT... I got a very nice energy and libido boost from it... more so than from Sustain. Sustain hower managed to keep me from crashing... I didn't feel the same kind of boost as with the original formula, but it kept me going. I haven't lost any weight... my energy is up for the most part... libido isn't bad... all in I'm very pleased with results.
 
Stryker1992 said:
Hey bro, I finished up about 5 weeks of PCT - post cycle therapy - . I felt pretty good during the entire process. I did have issues with motivation and some strength loss but it is hard for me to evaluate becuase I have had some pretty intense schedule shifts as well. My strength and mass have decreased a bit but I think there was water wieght loss involved. Overall, I have preferredit to any other PCT I have done. I will most likely stick with the process. Usually I get depressed real bad post cycle but this did not happen. I am very happy about that!

I do really hate being off, such a difference!

YOU?
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Good to hear bro! I've actually extended out my PCT a little longer.... had some bloodwork done after 4 weeks of Sustain...I wasn't totally recovered yet at that point, but then again, I always have an awful time recovering.

The big difference is this time I didn't crash. Energy, libido and strength have been up for the most part. Haven't lost much, if any, weight. I'm having bloodwork done again in a few weeks, this time with an endo. If I'm not fully recovered, then I'll know it's me, not the Sustain. I'm expecting better lab results though.

The big difference with this PCT has been that I FEEL great. NO crash. That alone makes this product worth it for me. I'm sure those who have no problems recovering in general would do nicely with Sustain.
 
Stryker1992 said:
Hey bro, I finished up about 5 weeks of PCT - post cycle therapy - . I felt pretty good during the entire process. I did have issues with motivation and some strength loss but it is hard for me to evaluate becuase I have had some pretty intense schedule shifts as well. My strength and mass have decreased a bit but I think there was water wieght loss involved. Overall, I have preferredit to any other PCT I have done. I will most likely stick with the process. Usually I get depressed real bad post cycle but this did not happen. I am very happy about that!

I do really hate being off, such a difference!

YOU?
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i know it fucking sucks! good to hear everything is running smooth for you brother.
 
I have been running clomid for the last 3 weeks as pct. I am actually stronger now than I was while on. I set a personal best yesterday on incline (315 lbs). I am very weak on chest exercises. So, that is good for me.
The problem is that I lost my clomid and AI when I was changing rental cars.
So, I had the boys at Primordial send me some dermacrine and sustain overnight to my hotel. Those guys are great. It shipped the same day. It should be here any time now.

Wow, in the middle of typing this post, I got a call from AVIS that they have my clomid. Now, I will try a combo of sustain and clomid... how funny.

But, I must say, the bro I talked to on the phone from PP was sympathetic and said he would get the stuff out immediately. Now its time to see if it works.
 
How much longer were you planning on running your PCT? Personally, I would run the Sustain alone to see if it truly works for you or not. I think the whole point is seeing if Sustain can truly be an alternative to Clomid or Nolva. But you're probably almost at the end of PCT anyway, so you shouldn't be too far from being fully-recovered?
 
I want to run a long pct. I cant judge results by looking at the scale because my weight fluctuates like crazy. But, I made great seemingly solid gains and pct has gone very well.
 
The biggest benefit was from the mood stabalization as well. My mood always shits the bed post cycle. the sustain completely stopped that from happenng. Also, my sex drive was awesome during the entire recovery process. I did not get any acne like I do with clomid.

Again, my schedule has changed dramatically during the last few weeks and it is not fair to make complete evaluations. Overall, this stuff made me very happy and I am going to continue to use it.

BTW:

Primordial is a very solid brother and true to his word!
 
stewfoo said:
I have been running clomid for the last 3 weeks as PCT - post cycle therapy - . I am actually stronger now than I was while on. I set a personal best yesterday on incline (315 lbs). I am very weak on chest exercises. So, that is good for me.
The problem is that I lost my clomid and aromatase inhibitor when I was changing rental cars.
So, I had the boys at Primordial send me some dermacrine and sustain overnight to my hotel. Those guys are great. It shipped the same day. It should be here any time now.

Wow, in the middle of typing this post, I got a call from AVIS that they have my clomid. Now, I will try a combo of sustain and clomid... how funny.

But, I must say, the bro I talked to on the phone from PP was sympathetic and said he would get the stuff out immediately. Now its time to see if it works.
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Stew, I trust you got your Derma on time?

-Pp
 
Bro, The dermacrine and sustain arrived at 8 am (next day). Great way to handle your customers. I started use immediately. You guys have phenomenal service!
 
Pp is top-notch with service...and Eric has gone above and beyond just mere product support... he's got alot of all-round good knowledge and advice!
 
I'm having the same results with Derm Sust as well! My sex drive is still going strong, I have had no crash except for the first couple days before I started Derma. My workouts are still great and I havent lost any gains at all. But my gains were from tren so they're not going anywhere anyways.
 
Stryker1992 said:
I have been about 3 weeks into my Derma sustain and post cycle unleashed PCT - post cycle therapy - regimen and I must say I feel pretty damn good. My strength and motivation are still awesome.

MY only issue is my sex drive! It is through the fucking roof. I was so horny the other day I was looking in the escort service section of a local rag and thinking about hooking up! As a matter of fact I called but the bitch did not answer. I am jerking off like mad!

Something must be working!!!! Normally PCT is a fucking nightmare, I have no sex drive and I want to kill myself!!!
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Is that all you used for post cycle therapy?
 
I was too afraid to run Sustain alone. After about 7 days I started 25mg of Clomid ED. So, I don't know what is doing what. I think Sustain is making me feel good, though. Clomid makes me emotional so don't say anything mean about my post.
 
Stallbro said:
I was too afraid to run Sustain alone. After about 7 days I started 25mg of Clomid ED. So, I don't know what is doing what. I think Sustain is making me feel good, though. Clomid makes me emotional so don't say anything mean about my post.
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How long you been in PCT?

-Pp
 
Stallbro said:
I was too afraid to run Sustain alone. After about 7 days I started 25mg of Clomid ED. So, I don't know what is doing what. I think Sustain is making me feel good, though. Clomid makes me emotional so don't say anything mean about my post.
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If you were using just clomid for PCT you would feel the crash anyways; that is guaranteed. If you don;t feel the crash emotionally, energy, is probably because Dermacrine is taking care of the problem by raising your natty test levels.
 
Hey PP, what can you expect using dermacrine sustain while off and clean? Horny as a horse? should be cycled?
 
DJ_UFO said:
Hey PP, what can you expect using dermacrine sustain while off and clean? Horny as a horse? should be cycled?
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Yeah…we market Derma Sustain as a PCT - post cycle therapy - supp on the steroid forums… but its really an all around great natural test booster.

Sexually, I notice increased “hardness” and “volume” just within a few days of using the stuff…. Sorta like Viagra but more controllable and obviously without the headaches. (since it works by different mechanisms)

Really no need to cycle either… although guys do seem to notice the most benefit when they cycle 2 on, 1 off, 2 on.

-Pp


-Pp
 
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Hey bros. I wanted to chime in here and say I'll be using Dermacrine Sustain, Unleashed, and Post Cycle only. No clomid, nolva, etc. My last shot is this Friday (test e) and I've run 22 weeks of Test E(750mg), EQ(600mg), and Var(50mg 4 weeks). I know I'm shut down hard due to the length of time I've been on and I'm also 34 yrs. old. For an example, I went out of town on vacation on 8/24 and took a shot that morning. I didn't return until 9/1 and went to see my new girl on 9/3. Our first night together and the soldier wouldn't stand at attention more than a minute or so and I've never had this problem in my life. I also could feel the energy/emotional crash beginning to start. The last 2 weeks, I've taken only 1 shot of test, 250mg, to keep me going to PCT. This is only intended to show how shut down I am. I have run HCG throughout to keep the boys going which I've never done before so hopefully that will help also. Anyway, I'll give an update once PCT starts and let you guys know what I think.
 
eaglesnest said:
Hey bros. I wanted to chime in here and say I'll be using Dermacrine Sustain, Unleashed, and Post Cycle only. No clomid, Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - , etc. My last shot is this Friday (testosterone enanthate) and I've run 22 weeks of Test E(750mg), Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - (600mg), and Anavar - oxandrolone - (50mg 4 weeks). I know I'm shut down hard due to the length of time I've been on and I'm also 34 yrs. old. For an example, I went out of town on vacation on 8/24 and took a shot that morning. I didn't return until 9/1 and went to see my new girl on 9/3. Our first night together and the soldier wouldn't stand at attention more than a minute or so and I've never had this problem in my life. I also could feel the energy/emotional crash beginning to start. The last 2 weeks, I've taken only 1 shot of test, 250mg, to keep me going to PCT - post cycle therapy - . This is only intended to show how shut down I am. I have run HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - throughout to keep the boys going which I've never done before so hopefully that will help also. Anyway, I'll give an update once PCT starts and let you guys know what I think.
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nice bro..this might need its own thread for sure though.
 
eaglesnest said:
Hey bros. I wanted to chime in here and say I'll be using Dermacrine Sustain, Unleashed, and Post Cycle only. No clomid, Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - , etc. My last shot is this Friday (testosterone enanthate) and I've run 22 weeks of Test E(750mg), Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - (600mg), and Anavar - oxandrolone - (50mg 4 weeks). I know I'm shut down hard due to the length of time I've been on and I'm also 34 yrs. old. For an example, I went out of town on vacation on 8/24 and took a shot that morning. I didn't return until 9/1 and went to see my new girl on 9/3. Our first night together and the soldier wouldn't stand at attention more than a minute or so and I've never had this problem in my life. I also could feel the energy/emotional crash beginning to start. The last 2 weeks, I've taken only 1 shot of test, 250mg, to keep me going to PCT - post cycle therapy - . This is only intended to show how shut down I am. I have run HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - throughout to keep the boys going which I've never done before so hopefully that will help also. Anyway, I'll give an update once PCT starts and let you guys know what I think.
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How often did you shoot the hCG?

Whats is you cycle history like?

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
How long you been in PCT - post cycle therapy - ?

-Pp
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I'm almost four weeks into PCT. My bottle of Sustain is almost gone. I'd say I have one more day left of the Sustain.

I feel fine and have felt fine for about two weeks. Do you think I'll stop feeling good after I stop the Sustain? I certainly hope not. Thanks!
 
Stallbro said:
I'm almost four weeks into PCT - post cycle therapy - . My bottle of Sustain is almost gone. I'd say I have one more day left of the Sustain.

I feel fine and have felt fine for about two weeks. Do you think I'll stop feeling good after I stop the Sustain? I certainly hope not. Thanks!
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you will feel fine bro...
 
PP,
I shot 500iu once to twice a week depending on shrinkage. I am going to go 500iu everyday next week to keep them nice and full. This is my 4th cycle in 3 years and longest cycle by 8 weeks. I've only ever run test, eq, var, and t-bol. Last cycle was 500 test and 400 eq with a kickstart of t-bol for 4 weeks. As stated earlier, I bumped test to 750 and eq to 600 with var thrown in the last full 4 weeks. I've been training off/on since 15 yrs. old but solid for last 6 yrs. minus about 6 months when I had shoulder surgery about 2 yrs. ago. At my heaviest about 3 months ago I was 6'0 240lbs at around 18%bf. I am now at 222lbs at 14% which was checked just last night. I would like to maintain around 215 at 12-13% when all is said and done. If you have any other questions just let me know.
 
eaglesnest said:
PP,
I shot 500iu once to twice a week depending on shrinkage. I am going to go 500iu everyday next week to keep them nice and full. This is my 4th cycle in 3 years and longest cycle by 8 weeks. I've only ever run test, Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - , Anavar - oxandrolone - , and t-bol. Last cycle was 500 test and 400 Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - with a kickstart of t-bol for 4 weeks. As stated earlier, I bumped test to 750 and Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - to 600 with Anavar - oxandrolone - thrown in the last full 4 weeks. I've been training off/on since 15 yrs. old but solid for last 6 yrs. minus about 6 months when I had shoulder surgery about 2 yrs. ago. At my heaviest about 3 months ago I was 6'0 240lbs at around 18%bf. I am now at 222lbs at 14% which was checked just last night. I would like to maintain around 215 at 12-13% when all is said and done. If you have any other questions just let me know.
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Thanks for the info.

A tip...

I wouldn’t shoot anymore hCG since if you used it on the cycle you wont need it now for PCT. Plus 500iu ED will cause you to create a lot of estrogen and will desensitize your testes from making there own testosterone… which could make recovery very hard.

You’ve got a good plan with just running the sups you mentioned before…

-Pp
 
Stallbro said:
I'm almost four weeks into PCT - post cycle therapy - . My bottle of Sustain is almost gone. I'd say I have one more day left of the Sustain.

I feel fine and have felt fine for about two weeks. Do you think I'll stop feeling good after I stop the Sustain? I certainly hope not. Thanks!
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Have you noticed any difference with the cawk while on sustain?
 
hey is it better to take the post cycle unleased with Derma sustain or would it be better to take it after the sustain is gone???

jvb20
 
jvb20 said:
hey is it better to take the post cycle unleased with Derma sustain or would it be better to take it after the sustain is gone???

jvb20
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There would probably be some synergy between the two products. Id use them at the same time.

-Pp
 
Thanks for the tip PP. I'll definitely take your advice and leave out anymore HCG. I forgot to mention I may throw in some Nolva I have on hand. What do you think about using this along with everything else? I've always used Nolva for PCT and never Clomid and recovered fine. Thanks for the help.
 
eaglesnest said:
Thanks for the tip PP. I'll definitely take your advice and leave out anymore HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - . I forgot to mention I may throw in some Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - I have on hand. What do you think about using this along with everything else? I've always used Nolva for PCT - post cycle therapy - and never Clomid and recovered fine. Thanks for the help.
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A little nolva (10mg/ED) for a few weeks may speed up recovery, but I wouldn’t run anymore than that.

-Pp
 
7 weeks ago I ended a 4 year cycle. Yes, 4 years. I would lower the test. to maintenance periodically but never went off. Now I am off. After going off I did 1 month of Dermacrine along with Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - . Since ending the Dermacrine I have also now done 3 weeks of DermaSustain. I have not done any HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - . I have 4500 i.u. of HCG that I found and some Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - left. Would it be wise to hit the HCG now 7 weeks after last anabolic androgenic steroids shot? I ask because my balls don't seem to be totally back to normal and I am not the sex fiend I used to be. (While on I did testosterone enanthate and Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - ).

Thanks,
Ace
 
ace6921 said:
7 weeks ago I ended a 4 year cycle. Yes, 4 years. I would lower the test. to maintenance periodically but never went off. Now I am off. After going off I did 1 month of Dermacrine along with Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - . Since ending the Dermacrine I have also now done 3 weeks of DermaSustain. I have not done any HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - . I have 4500 i.u. of HCG that I found and some Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - left. Would it be wise to hit the HCG now 7 weeks after last anabolic androgenic steroids shot? I ask because my balls don't seem to be totally back to normal and I am not the sex fiend I used to be. (While on I did testosterone enanthate and Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - ).

Thanks,
Ace
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If you never did hCG on cycle then it might be worth a shot now. Id shoot 1100iu twice a week for 2 weeks. Use 20mg/day nolva during this time and follow the nolva till one week after your last hCG shot.

25mg/day aromasin during your second week of hCG would be a good idea too.

-Pp
 
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