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Defense tactics / Martial Arts

shoichi

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Are any of you guys involved in either?

I'm looking into different types of both due to the nature of my work, and my size. I'm looking specifically for something that emphasizes take downs and self defense.
 
Kung Fu is great,external is the type your looking for,interal is about organ destruction and thats serious shit
 
hmmm.....

Well first we must understand that no style is the best and what works for others may not work for you. I.M.O if you really wanted to learn to defend yourself to the best your potential will let you then u need to take diff things from different styles which can be made into instinct for your line of defense. Some will not agree with me but those are the same ones who u find making excuses for eevrything, ones getting killed because they are not aware of their surroundings (snipers, robbers, etc),those same ones that don't understand how important it really is to have techniques which work best for you at your side when the time comes!!! Now enough of that lemme try and lead u in the right direction as best i can!!! You say you want a proven style w/take downs and self defense. Well some styles which incorporate many takedowns include any kind of grappling like some Kempo, Judo (throwing), etc.. For self defense i would stick with styles like Ju-Jitsu and i guess i can't say JKD (Jeet Kune Do) since its not a style its a "journey" which i really believe all martial arts should be considered since there is always some1 better out there and you can always get better then what you are already!!! Well hope this helps a lil bit i can go on forever on this subject but if i were you i would first recognize that what you want to become is something that comes from hard work and is not built overnite. Sit back and enjoy the journey it is a lot of fun and you get a lot of positive feedback from the martial arts...GOOD LUCK! ~JT~
 
shoichi said:
Are any of you guys involved in either?

I'm looking into different types of both due to the nature of my work, and my size. I'm looking specifically for something that emphasizes take downs and self defense.

:devil: Let me get this straight. You are from the martial arts capitol of the world and you're asking us for ideas? What kind of work do you do?
 
shoichi said:
Are any of you guys involved in either?

I'm looking into different types of both due to the nature of my work, and my size. I'm looking specifically for something that emphasizes take downs and self defense.

I've heard that openly carrying a firearem is a good defense tactic.
 
manny78 said:
Jailhouse rock...

Obscure martial arts reference.


What do you have available to you?

I look at fighting (competitive at least) as taking place in 3 ranges (Bruce Lee used 4, but I think you get through those ranges too quickly). The ranges are striking, clinch, and ground.

You have a lot of choices with striking arts. Personally I like western boxing and Muay Thai.

Clinching is tougher to define. I put arts like Muay Thai in here as well, because it has great knee and elbow strikes, I also include Judo because of the throwing aspect, but leave out Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Wrestling because they focus on solely taking the opponant to the ground to inflict damage.

Finally you have the ground, where Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Wrestling are the strong points.

It really depends on what schools you have close by and the quality of the instruction.
 
Krag Mata
Israeli Army form of martial arts, basically a reformed style of street fighting. I studied it for a very brief period while I was in that area, hard but damn fun.
 
shoichi said:
Are any of you guys involved in either?

I'm looking into different types of both due to the nature of my work, and my size. I'm looking specifically for something that emphasizes take downs and self defense.

Well, I have watched a ton of Chuck Norris, Bruce Lee and Steven Seagal movies. Does that count?
 
Re: Re: Defense tactics / Martial Arts

HULKSTER said:


Well, I have watched a ton of Chuck Norris, Bruce Lee and Steven Seagal movies. Does that count?

Some of the stuff you see Old fat Seagal do is Aikido based moves.
Circular using you opponents own momentum to take them down.
 
Personally, I always recommend the most "enjoyable" martial art.


Go to a few different classes, most places will give you a few free or trial classes, and go with what you find enjoyable. Most people excell in an environment that is fun.


ALL martial arts have their strengths and weeknesses. I prefer muay thai or brazilian ju jitsu.....cause i had the best time in those classes. I found karate to be too mickey mouse and children oriented...too defensive.
 
combination of muay thai and some jiu jitsu.... Or get the Mast Tai tape, shows some good quick moves to take down an opponent in a crowded bar/club.
 
i havent trained in a yr, i was doing san shou kickboxing and jeet kun do but my instructor was arrested for credit card fraud :rolleyes:
 
TheOak01 said:
Kung Fu is great,external is the type your looking for,interal is about organ destruction and thats serious shit

Not necessarily so. Internal MA (Tai Chi, bagua, bajiquan and piqua) focus on chi or breath. It trains you to use "explosive force" localized bursts. It is helpful for small people. Yes there is focus on pressure points and chi na (joint lock and breaks) but you can decide not to use those moves unless necessary. Also internal MA tend to teach you to fight in either circles, similar to aikido, or to attack and retreat along diagonal lines. Good considering most people are mostly comfortable fighting face to face. Be behind them, beside them, whenever the get used to your location you move.

Most important you are taught to go with the flow. This allows you to tire your opponent with his/her own force, which is necessary if you are sparring/fighting someone bigger than you. With some people force on force will not work, it will result in you getting your ass kicked! Good example of hard/external against internal/soft is Jet Li's remake of 'Fist of Fury' called 'Fist of Legend'. His best movie by far.........Ang
 
Knew a couple of ladies in Brooklyn who were into jiu-jitsu, but as they got up in years they found that practicing it was hard on their own joints. (That was when they were about the age I am now... they had a few years on me.) They'd switched to an external Japanese karate style last I heard. Both tall, slender women with a good reach -- I wouldn't underestimate either of them.

One of them did a demo with one of their friends who was into aikido, and it was an interesting matchup. The details are a bit fuzzy but it went much the way you'd expect in a friendly demo; the aikido person wears down the person with the external style and concentrates on staying alive. ;)

Knew a blind kid back in college who was taking "aiki-jutsu." Sounded like a made up name at the time but apparently it's still around. Makes sense if you want the moves without the semi-religious trappings.
 
HULKSTER said:
I've heard that openly carrying a firearem is a good defense tactic.

Problem with Gun-fu is that if the bastard thinks you're bluffing, there's only one way to prove him wrong.
 
I would suggest Karate as it is obviously based on self defense but the karate I do (Wada Ryu) incorporates loads of different martial arts whether it be judo, capoeira, boxing etc etc. Also it's good if you want to do a varity of fighting including points fighting, sparring and grappling. In response to whoever said it's kid orientated that can be so in some cases but if you have a good enough trainer he will train you in a way that will be of value to you sure to start with it's the boring block kich punch but as soon as you get into it it you will soon be throwing people and locking into their every limb.
 
Shoichi,
Ninjutsu is one of the best and openly available where you are. I have personally trained with the Grand Master Dr. Masaaki Hatsumi in Arizona and he is a wonderful man and martial artist. He inherited the nine schools of Ninjutsu directly from the last living bloodline Ninja Takamatsu Sensi.

Check out this web Site:
http://www.ninjutsu.com/

Mark
 
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