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Defense against large breed dogs?
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MikeMartial
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shamrock11
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shamrock11
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Seriously though. Large breed dogs attack the first thing they can get to. So if running is not an option and you have no weapons then you have to expect to get bitten. I would say the throat and the underbelly are the two weakest places on a dog and should be your point of attack. Try to use a jacket or shirt as the first thing the dog attacks and then try to get it of it's feet. If you do this you have pretty much taken away the dogs advantage. It would be anaglous to taking down a boxer and taking away his hands.
mma_fighter
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Coming from a Marine Corps Background I've had the privilege of having some advanced H-H combat training and dogs had been covered...
What is said above is true...but the most effect way to handle a dog is use striking moves as it comes in aiming for the nose (the most sensitive area on a dog, more so then the family jewels) or the throat. If you miss or don't hit with enough power, which will almost always be the case with a large dog. your going to end up grappling the thing. Your best action is give it your fist...like Shamrock11 said they go for the first thing they see. So offer your fist straight out...your going to get bit...but the idea is to shove your fist down it's throat and gag it. If you get it down far enough quickly enough, it can't clamp down. It's stick and brutal, but remember it's the one trying to bite your neck off.
What is said above is true...but the most effect way to handle a dog is use striking moves as it comes in aiming for the nose (the most sensitive area on a dog, more so then the family jewels) or the throat. If you miss or don't hit with enough power, which will almost always be the case with a large dog. your going to end up grappling the thing. Your best action is give it your fist...like Shamrock11 said they go for the first thing they see. So offer your fist straight out...your going to get bit...but the idea is to shove your fist down it's throat and gag it. If you get it down far enough quickly enough, it can't clamp down. It's stick and brutal, but remember it's the one trying to bite your neck off.
deltreefitness
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Awwwh I read this and think of my poor little Dexter getting all beat up. Why are you worried about dog attacks? How often are you in contact with untamed, aggressive large breed dogs?
i have an aggressive Great Dane, and a gentle one, the aggressive one was teased by my neighbors son. (threw batteries and such at him from on top the fence.
One day im going to make that fence fall down when the kid gets up on it again.
let my pup go after that little fucking terror.
One day im going to make that fence fall down when the kid gets up on it again.
let my pup go after that little fucking terror.
I have fought a dog once. I was meter reader for for the eletric company and a pack of dogs came at me. This big yellow lab jumped up on me, so i put my fore arm deep into its mouth so no sharp teeth bit down. Then I gave it a couple of hard right hooks to the head. It shook it up bad and it let go. I backed away quickly and never turned my back to it. THats my story anyways. MMA fighter that is intresting that you learned about dog fighting while in. We never covered that.
Used to come into contact with dogs on my job. They gave us mace but I never planned to use it. If I had a second or two to respond, I'd snatch my shirt off and wrap it around my hand and offer it to him, possibly getting my hand or arm bitten also(better than the leg or nuts), once I'm tied up with him, as said earlier, try to get him off his feet.
At some point during the fight, you'd better believe I'm biting him back (nose or throat).
It's sick, but that's what I'm going with.
At some point during the fight, you'd better believe I'm biting him back (nose or throat).
It's sick, but that's what I'm going with.
musclebosun
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a crowbar. or my car.
Saintinistic
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If you see him in the area, throw the batteries through the shitheads own home windows. he gets blame and a wipping from parents. divide and conquer.jeepboi said:
as for dogs, got attacked by a German Sheppard when I was 12, happened too fast to remember clearly but ended up on the ground side on with a headlock on and top leg locked over its hindlegs. owner came a minute later. that fucker couldnt get me from that position and was freaking out. wouldnt like to try on a more viscious breed.
good advice all around, however on a side note (not bragging here i promise) i was at a friends house and a 110 pound rhotweiler jumped on my leg and started humping me, go ahead and laugh at this point, to say that i was pissed off was the understatement of the century, anyway i shoved the dog off, then i dropped a right cross on this dog that would have knocked the *bleep* out of just about anyone(except pro boxers with chins of iron) the dog let out a yelp that you could here in the backyard with the doors closed it dissoriented the dog for about 15 seconds, and then the dog growled at me and gave me a look like is that all you got you big puss, if you gotta fight a dog get a weapon, some of the rhoti's out there can take damage you would not believe, as for my background i have taken jeet kune do, i have boxed for over 6 yrs. etc. i know how to punch, so that is not the problem, the problem is that dog has a head made out of cement, so word to the wise, alot of think we could kick a dogs ass hand to hand in some dog cases that is probably true, but if you have to fight a large rhotweiler without a weapon you are probably dead
JL_204
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A few days ago at a pool party me and my friend were trying to push eachother in the pool and his pitbull grabbed my whole thigh in his mouth. He didnt bite hard he just let me know he was there and didnt like what i was doing.
Thats some scary shit. If he clamped down i dont think theres much i couldve done.
Maybe i couldve slapped an armbar on him somehow. lol.
Thats some scary shit. If he clamped down i dont think theres much i couldve done.
Maybe i couldve slapped an armbar on him somehow. lol.
Saintinistic
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Jump into the pool with it on your leg, hold onto the side while it drowns.JL_204 said:
I would say a choke of some sort. There was some story in the news a few months back that some chic that wieghted 105lbs got attacked by some huge ass dog that was 130lbs while she was trying to get into her apartment. And she was a bjj practioner and choked the dog's ass out till it died.
The messed up part was the dog's owner was pissed that she killed their dog and wanted to press charged on her or take her to court.
I had a pretty big sized german shepard come at me while I was running along a wooded trail. I stopped and prepared myself to fight the dog. I kept eye contact and he would run at me then stop at the las moment and wuss out and run away. Then his owner was trying to get him so I thought it was ok to take off running again. lol stupid f'ing guy couldn't get his dog under control so as soon as I started running again dumb ass dog comes at me again. So I stop and face him and stare him in the eye - and the dog wussed out again.
I usually carry a knife with me due to the trail I run on is near a ghetto area. But of course the day I need it I didn't carry it lol. But when I was facing the dog I was thinking of getting a rear naked choke on him.
The messed up part was the dog's owner was pissed that she killed their dog and wanted to press charged on her or take her to court.
I had a pretty big sized german shepard come at me while I was running along a wooded trail. I stopped and prepared myself to fight the dog. I kept eye contact and he would run at me then stop at the las moment and wuss out and run away. Then his owner was trying to get him so I thought it was ok to take off running again. lol stupid f'ing guy couldn't get his dog under control so as soon as I started running again dumb ass dog comes at me again. So I stop and face him and stare him in the eye - and the dog wussed out again.
I usually carry a knife with me due to the trail I run on is near a ghetto area. But of course the day I need it I didn't carry it lol. But when I was facing the dog I was thinking of getting a rear naked choke on him.
Saintinistic
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delphiOne
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I know a bit about this as my parents raise german shepherds, some have which have gone through attack dog and police training.
Dogs (like humans) are not born with the ability to fight. They must be trained or learn the hard way to fight effectively, this includes biting. Sure, they are all physically capable of it, but not all know how to do it properly. Most often, dog bites are like punches thrown by newbies, cute and irritating but rather ineffectual.
In my experience a dog gets disoriented quickly when you take it off it's feet - they don't like that. A previous poster wrote that they will go for the closest target, usually your arm (because most people hold their arms out to keep the attacking dog away). I've found that you open up your arms, kinda like you are opening up for a hug. The goal is to draw the dog just close enough to reach in and grab his neck from both sides for a takedown. Make sure that takedown is fast and hard, and get him on his back.
Dogs are hereditary pack animals by nature and being on top and holding them down establishes you as dominant. You may need to hold them down for a few minutes, but once they are helpless they will realize you are in charge.
This isn't hard to do, but overcoming your fear in the face of growling, barking and flashing teeth is a different story. If the dog does get his teeth on your arm, jamming it into his throat does work. Remember here that his greatest (in fact only) weapon is immobilized so use that time to get him on his back and get on top of him.
Dogs (like humans) are not born with the ability to fight. They must be trained or learn the hard way to fight effectively, this includes biting. Sure, they are all physically capable of it, but not all know how to do it properly. Most often, dog bites are like punches thrown by newbies, cute and irritating but rather ineffectual.
In my experience a dog gets disoriented quickly when you take it off it's feet - they don't like that. A previous poster wrote that they will go for the closest target, usually your arm (because most people hold their arms out to keep the attacking dog away). I've found that you open up your arms, kinda like you are opening up for a hug. The goal is to draw the dog just close enough to reach in and grab his neck from both sides for a takedown. Make sure that takedown is fast and hard, and get him on his back.
Dogs are hereditary pack animals by nature and being on top and holding them down establishes you as dominant. You may need to hold them down for a few minutes, but once they are helpless they will realize you are in charge.
This isn't hard to do, but overcoming your fear in the face of growling, barking and flashing teeth is a different story. If the dog does get his teeth on your arm, jamming it into his throat does work. Remember here that his greatest (in fact only) weapon is immobilized so use that time to get him on his back and get on top of him.
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good ideas delphione...but what if it's some HUGE ASS dalmation mix with something...i was walking my dog like a month ago and this GIGANTIC dalmation that looked like it took Growth hormone was about to come and attack me n my little weak dog - i was gonna try and kick that shit if it attacked but as it was charging and got like ~7 ft close to us its owner yelled loud n called it back n it stopped...i don't think i could have put that dog on it's back even though im great at takedowns...lol...it was TOO big - in that case would kicking its face be ok? or is that just asking to get your foot eaten?
I don't know where you guys go to encounter the dogs you do....I am a veterinary technician and I can say in 9 years in the field....not once have I been bitten/attacked by a dog. You have to know how to read their body language...a dog will always change his posture and give some sort of warning (unlike cats...which can be very unpredictable and attack without warning.....)
delphiOne
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Kicking a dog can work, but you'd be suprised how little agility large dogs have. They are also not as stable as you think they are. Most dogs when attacking will instictively leap off their front feet. This makes them even easier to take down. Remember to sweep them to one side or the other.
If they stay on all fours, they will be more stable and harder to take down, but unable to effectively bite at you. Arms are the easiest target and if they are above the dog's head, the dog must jump at them. When he does, you take him down.
I'd say from your description, 1 more rep, that protecting your dog from another dog would be a more difficult proposition. When an attacking dog is coming after you, he is easier to deal with than trying to keep your dog out of harm's way.
I would personally stay away from kicking a dog. Best case scenario is you land a kick and still have to deal with an angry dog. You might be able to chase him off with that, but then again maybe not. Worst case scenario is he clamps onto your ankle which will make it nearly impossible to deal with. All in all - risky.
If they stay on all fours, they will be more stable and harder to take down, but unable to effectively bite at you. Arms are the easiest target and if they are above the dog's head, the dog must jump at them. When he does, you take him down.
I'd say from your description, 1 more rep, that protecting your dog from another dog would be a more difficult proposition. When an attacking dog is coming after you, he is easier to deal with than trying to keep your dog out of harm's way.
I would personally stay away from kicking a dog. Best case scenario is you land a kick and still have to deal with an angry dog. You might be able to chase him off with that, but then again maybe not. Worst case scenario is he clamps onto your ankle which will make it nearly impossible to deal with. All in all - risky.
Carl Carlson
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If a dog bites on your arm, the whole "feed it to them" theory is true... to test it, start playing tug-of-war with your dog using one of their toys. You can pull as hard as you can and the dog just clamps down and fights back... but the minute you start pushing the toy further back into their mouth, all they can do is let go.
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I was attacked by one of our rescue dogs just after we got him. I suspect that the incident was more about who was going to be boss in our house rather than an attempt to do me harm but since he was wearing a collar I grabbed it with both hands and pushed his head into the ground until he stopped wriggling. It was all over so fast I can hardly recall anything except wanting to keep those teeth away from my soft pink flesh and then using my weight to bear his head down. We were good friends after that.
Saintinistic
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tried and tested?
Wazzzzzzzup89
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buddha123 said:
saintinistic said:
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