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Declawing my babies
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bakemeacookie
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good 4 u. declawing is like taking away someone's fingertips.
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calveless wonder
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phew,thank god
wtf
chris302001
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Lol
No, it's not. Like has been said earlier, it's the equivalent of taking off the tip of your fingers at the top joint. They have to amputate below the nail bed, including part of the tendon.
Aside from the fact it's horrifying, it can have catastrophic long term results, some cats will stop using the litterpan because their feet hurt so badly. It turns virtually EVERY cat into a biter, because they become aware of the fact that they no longer have their primary weapons. There are shelters that put declawed cats down, they are just too difficult to adopt out and can often have explosive, unpredictable behavior.
RADAR! Get your cats this, it's worth the money and they use the SHIT out of it, it's not like those crappy wrapped rope ones you get at the pet store:
Sisal Base Scratching Post
I have two of them, one upstairs, one downstairs, it's my second pair. First pair lasted for six years with six cats, they eventually took them clean down to the wood. The old ones are in the basement and they still scratch them, too.
Unfortunately, there is very little you can do if they start on the furniture, you can try using the spray they're supposed to find offensive. They scent mark when they scratch, so they keep going back to the same place. I tell everyone to spend the money, get the post when they get a cat and the cat will barely mess with the furniture.
I only got mine declawed because of where I live, it was a requirement (damn rental units). Otherwise, I wouldn't have done it I don't think. I think MM is right about the biting issue. Mine has been a biter ever since. He mostly bites me though LOL And I'm the one he loves the most. So go figure. He also doesn't like his front paws touched either. Our other cat is not declawed and she never bites and she loves a paw massage hehe
chris302001
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What I wouldn't give to still have my viper's hood.
lmao
What I wouldn't give to still have my viper's hood.
I think a fair trade would be castration
chris302001
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cant trade something you dont have...
you're thinking of shirl's husband...
chris302001
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he's still got 1 nut, right?
technically he has 1.37265 balls
But it's a lot easiar just to call him gregory one nut
What about these?
Alternatives to Declawing, Nail Caps for Cats
Do they work? I don't have cats, but this looked like a decent idea.
Alternatives to Declawing, Nail Caps for Cats
Do they work? I don't have cats, but this looked like a decent idea.
chris302001
Banned
lol
what's even more hilarious is that gregory one nut took his bruised up self and got ball deep in shirl like 3 days after the accident and knocked her up even tho she had an iud.
pwnt!
chris302001
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This. It's exactly like that.
No they are sheaths that go over the claw itself. But cat's claws retract so I don't know if they would aggravate the kitty.
The three cats we had when I was growing up we declawed, but we didn't know or understand the proceedure at all. Looking back, I'm horrified by it. All three stayed the lovely non-biting kitties they were beforehand, but one I specifically remember being in pain for weeks after. It was completely heartbreaking. After that my family got educated and when the last of the three passed on, my parents got a couple more and have not and will not declaw them.
Strongbow
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You meant your cawck didn't you, you dirty old bastard.
you're just mad you didn't think of it first.
They work, but IMO they're dumb because every time the cat's claws grow out and they lose the outer sheath they need to be replaced.
Waaaaayyyyy easier to get a pair of these:
And have a friend help you and trim the cats nails regularly. Since they always have clear claws its easy to see the quick and avoid it, and you don't need to do the back claws, anyway. If you start them young, they have no problem with it and you can even file them a little to make them smoother.
But they ALWAYS going to go through scratching behavior. It's how they stretch the tendons in their legs and scent mark, it's instinct, like a dog sniffing an ass. Even declawed cats ACT like they're scratching, which is why it's way easier to give them something they're permitted to scratch and call it a day.
Strongbow
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mrplunkey
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The "my babies" part scares me.
Has pick3 gotten to you? Did he lure you to Cutters? Sure he says it's just for a drink, but it's the roofie that will have you waking up in a bathroom stall with an inexplicably sore o-ring staring at a wall that serves as a living tribute to his homoprowess.
Has pick3 gotten to you? Did he lure you to Cutters? Sure he says it's just for a drink, but it's the roofie that will have you waking up in a bathroom stall with an inexplicably sore o-ring staring at a wall that serves as a living tribute to his homoprowess.
PICK3
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I'm lost
What does declawing a cat have to do with your obsession for Cutter's, men's bathroom stalks, and unconscious 0-ring sech?
lol...ass...I see I have no need to get anyone up to speed
wrap tin foil on the arms of your furniture...cats despise it...my mom saved her furniture with this trick..and you can take it off after awhile once the they stop checkin out your furniture
I would imagine it works on wood moulding too
her cat likes the cardboard cat nipped disposable scratching posts..they like hang on doorknobs
mrplunkey
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I'm lost
What does declawing a cat have to do with your obsession for Cutter's, men's bathroom stalks, and unconscious 0-ring sech?
You tell me! Between you and Mr. Long John, I'm sure you have the answer.
I would never have yelled at Radar, but I would have done everything in my power to talk him out of it. I would love to see declawing outlawed in this country the way it has been all over the world so this shouldn't even be an issue. I'm sorry, but just because something CAN be done doesn't mean it SHOULD be done. Fuck man, if that WERE the case why the hell can't we castrate pedophiles and repeat sex offenders? It's fucking cruel and unusual punishment to take off a baby raper's equipment but you can cut a perfectly healthy cats toes off because you don't want your pet scratching up your nice furniture. Tell ya what, here's a suggestion, don't get a fucking cat. I don't want the hassle of walking a dog in all sorts of weather and making arrangements for it when I go on vacations, guess what, I don't own a fucking dog. Animals may be our property, but as pet owners, we have a responsibility to respect them for who and what they are.
The thing is, when you declaw a cat you never realize how much they use their "hands." They will use those extendable toes of theirs with great care, precision and delicacy to get to things they otherwise wouldn't be able to. I know of cats that actually choose to eat with their paws, picking up dry food, grasping it with their claws, and nibbling it out of their paw like a person would eat potato chips.
I have one that's very meticulous about giving herself pedicures. She will spend up to 15 minutes on one foot, paying attention to each individual claw. You don't spend that much time doing something unless you really enjoy it.
RADAR
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RADAR
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Many thanks to everyone who responded. Well today was the day ,except for the declawing ,they are gonna be fixed (they are brother & sister) and they are inseperateable ,so i thought it best for both to do it together, god I hate this.
anyway anyone have any idea to keep the male from marking his territory? I have picked him up and took him to the litter box to no advail ,i'm thinking more about cleaning the house and steaming the floors , after that spray his favorite area with kitty scram.
comments anyone?
anyway anyone have any idea to keep the male from marking his territory? I have picked him up and took him to the litter box to no advail ,i'm thinking more about cleaning the house and steaming the floors , after that spray his favorite area with kitty scram.
comments anyone?
Marking isn't like peeing, it's a different behavior, so moving him to the box won't change things. Think positively, neutering fixes the problem in more than 80% of the cases. Having a female of the same age probably entering puberty as well may have made things worse. The odds are very, very good that it will stop after they're fixed.
You still need to get to the pet store and get some enzymic urine/odor remover then hit everything that got sprayed on (unaltered girls will do it too if they're in heat).
Steaming won't actually remove the scent marks, you need the enzymic cleaner to destroy the odor completely, THEN you clean. When it comes to carpets, you may need to lift the carpet and check if it went all the way to the pad/floor and treat those areas, too.
RADAR
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Thank god its in my gym and i don't have carpet there, tonight when i went over there to watch TV after 10:00 every night ,(yeah! the wife goes to bed early and has to get up early)well tonight the house was so empty,you never realize how much you miss something ,until its gone, BTW ! Doodles turned out to be a male ,that blew my mind!he/she acts so much like my 2 female cats i have here in my house.
so howed they do from their neutering??
one of my dogs was seriously messed up after he was neutered for like a week...poor guy
he just looked dazed and confused for a little bit
one of my dogs was seriously messed up after he was neutered for like a week...poor guy
he just looked dazed and confused for a little bit
Yes, but theoretically you can restrain yourself and overcome your instinct to piss all over the walls (and just about any other vertical surface), the critters cannot.
mrplunkey
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And I can also resist the urge to scratch things. What's that got to do with anything?
Not neutered = spraying
Not declawed = shredding stuff
It's just odd to me how gung-ho people are over getting a cat's balls cut off while it's horrible to have them declawed.
I have six cats, none of my stuff is shredded. If you provide cats, from the beginning, with appropriate places to claw/stretch they will use them.
I can't believe you're so desperate to have a debate with someone that you're trying to provoke me into an argument to defend spaying and neutering. Now that's just silly.
Most animals being kept as pets have no business keeping their gonads - not even "pedigreed" ones. Not when there 56 percent of dogs and 71 percent of cats that enter animal shelters are euthanized. That means well over 2 million animals a year, easy (euthanasia statistics aren't actually required). If you own an animal and it is not neutered, there is a possibility it will get out and reproduce. You only end up contributing to the problem.
Male animals, in particular, that are unneutered, are significantly more aggressive. Male cats that are unneutered make unpleasant house pets that will do everything they can to make a break for the outdoors to fulfill their biological imperative, kick other boy cats asses and make kittens.
In closing, while a cat can be provided with attractive, appropriate places to fulfill their need to scratch, they will utilize, you will not teach an unneutered cat to not spray, it simply cannot be done. Spraying is not urinating.
RADAR
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Doodles did good after being fixed,however blood tests gave the vet some alarmnent after reading them the Blood /enzyme ratio was elevated ,so he goes back in 2 week for a check up, BTW i found out why they sprayed ,a cat toy we had at a guarage sale i took it in ,and even after 4 washings they still sprayed it, so ,its gone. Doodles had no probems after the surgery,altho i did request 7 days of pain meds.
MM i'm getting one of those scratching posts I have 2 cats at my house and have already been thru 6 posts. Even re-threaded them to cut costs but nada!
MM i'm getting one of those scratching posts I have 2 cats at my house and have already been thru 6 posts. Even re-threaded them to cut costs but nada!
mrplunkey
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No, I'm laughing over your reluctance to acknowledge the elephant in the room. I'd think someone so in tune with Mother Earth would recognize the folly in keeping a marginally domesticated (and I'm being lenient here) animal confined in the first place. Maybe veal and chickens like their small pens as well.
Just goes to show what you know.
I can tell you one thing, my cats LIKE being in the house. All of them are shelter/rescue cats. Heck, one of them was semi-feral and chose to come home with us and hasn't looked back since. We tried taking her on vacation with us once and she acted like she was being punished the whole time. Another one made the mistake once of crossing over the threshhold and slipping outside. She hit the panic button instantly and was hysterical to get back in.
Cats are a lot of things, but stupid they are not. They like comfort, they like regular meals and clean water to drink, they like warmth and soft places. They hate being dirty and wet and cold. Most of them like the chase more than the hunt and of the ones who like to hunt, not all of them will kill (my semi feral is guilty of this, I know she knows how to kill be she prefers not to muss herself up if she doesn't need to).
Next you'll berate me for eating meat
As for my being in tune with nature
I never claimed that. I camp, but I confess I like running water and electricity and climate control. I try to cause the least amount of damage, that's about all I can do.
mrplunkey
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Just goes to show what you know.
I can tell you one thing, my cats LIKE being in the house. All of them are shelter/rescue cats. Heck, one of them was semi-feral and chose to come home with us and hasn't looked back since. We tried taking her on vacation with us once and she acted like she was being punished the whole time. Another one made the mistake once of crossing over the threshhold and slipping outside. She hit the panic button instantly and was hysterical to get back in.
Cats are a lot of things, but stupid they are not. They like comfort, they like regular meals and clean water to drink, they like warmth and soft places. They hate being dirty and wet and cold. Most of them like the chase more than the hunt and of the ones who like to hunt, not all of them will kill (my semi feral is guilty of this, I know she knows how to kill be she prefers not to muss herself up if she doesn't need to).
Next you'll berate me for eating meat
As for my being in tune with nature
I didn't realize you were a cat whisperer. You should put that on your resume.
Claiming to know what a wild animal LIKES is hilarious. And your proof is that it comes back? Let's see... you've sexually neutered it, trained it not to hunt and completely disconnected it from nature. Of course it's going to stick around. It's not like it has alternatives. Does this mean someone in an abusive relationship who chooses to return LIKES the treatment they receive?
Actually, three of my six cats aren't neutered and the one that slipped out the door is one of the ones that isn't fixed.
You can't train a cat not to hunt, that's instinct. They do, however, have to learn how to kill and eat what they catch. They learn that by observation.
And housecats aren't wild. There's been a couple of interesting specials on NatGeo or one of the Discovery channels, anyway, housecats aren't domestic in the true sense of the word, but neither are they wild. They aren't domestic because human beings apparently never set out to capture and tame cats to live with us, and it wasn't until relatively recently (from a historical perspective) that intentional, selective breeding for certain traits started. Cat's apparently adopted humans, so it's not just me saying that cats LIKE us. Biologist, anthropologists and all sorts of far more educated and intelligent people than me, with lots and lots of initials after their names, say the same thing.
Cats, if given the choice, choose to live with/near humans. Personally, I see it as nothing more than a reflection of their basic nature. They like their comfort.
mrplunkey
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Well I certainly wouldn't want to argue with the television.
And P.S. -- the domestication of cats dates back to Egypt around 3,000-4,000 years ago (possibly beyond). That's not "relatively recently" to me.
Compared to dogs, which have been with man for 150-200K years, a mere 3-4K is very recent indeed.
Unless you're one of those Young Earth nutjobs, in which case cats have been with us forever.
mrplunkey
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So we've bracketed the capture and mutilation of animals in the name of companionship somewhere within the timeframe of 200k years to the present.
Got it!
CoBra666
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i personally am glad i was circumsized i just think it looks better. like a cute little alien with no legs or something.. idk. but i love my kitty i buy her all kinds of toys and scratchers and like 3 trees to climb, and i got these like cat shelves or something. lol so she can jump from the top of her big tree and go to the little shelve the jump to the next one and theres 6 and then she can get to her tree in the other corner of the living room. or she just chills above the couch on the little cat shelf thats right above me and my gf when we watch movies and stuff. i couldnt ever imagine putting her through the pain. that simple id never let my cat suffer. even if she wrecked everything. i would just buy some kind of unwreckable furniture.. like kevlar or something
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