Deca

[a creed]

I am running deca @ 200mg/week and it's really helping my joints - they haven't felt this good in YEARS.

However; I can't stop thinking about Deca taking a year to leave the system, and seeing as I just entered into L.E. - I will always have to worry about AAS testing.

Am I overanylizing this?
Does anyone here avoid deca simply for the detection time?

 

[swordfish151]

I am running deca @ 200mg/week and it's really helping my joints - they haven't felt this good in YEARS.

However; I can't stop thinking about Deca taking a year to leave the system, and seeing as I just entered into L.E. - I will always have to worry about AAS testing.

Am I overanylizing this?
Does anyone here avoid deca simply for the detection time?

If I had a job like you...then yes I would avoid it because of that...but how many LE actually do get tested for AAS? I know some local officers that juice and they havent been tested in years...if that ever!

 

[a creed]

If I had a job like you...then yes I would avoid it because of that...but how many LE actually do get tested for AAS? I know some local officers that juice and they havent been tested in years...if that ever!

yeah, I know - and they seem to shy away from testing for it.

Maybe I can try a shorter acting Deca?

It's not that I am "worried" - it's more of the detection time - one year is just too much. I mean, if they told me I had a test next summer, I'd still be screwed.

 

[jagerbombme]

not sure if it's the ester as much as the chemical itself.

 

[swordfish151]

yeah, I know - and they seem to shy away from testing for it.

Maybe I can try a shorter acting Deca?

It's not that I am "worried" - it's more of the detection time - one year is just too much. I mean, if they told me I had a test next summer, I'd still be screwed.

If you know anyone on the force you should ask them about that policy...at my job they didnt test me before I started and havent since..I have been here for 3 years now...they dont test anyone (well for rec drugs) so it might not be an issue..but then again its LE

 

[a creed]

not sure if it's the ester as much as the chemical itself.

I'm dropping it anyway and adding EQ to my current 600mg of Test E

 

[atlantaholdem]

I'm dropping it anyway and adding EQ to my current 600mg of Test E

Can't you maybe get a prescription from SouthBeachRejuvination or something for the Deca? This would at least clear you if you get caught.

 

[a creed]

Can't you maybe get a prescription from SouthBeachRejuvination or something for the Deca? This would at least clear you if you get caught.

Nope - would never want them to know anything.

 

[krishna]

It may have a pain relieving and an anti-inflammatory effect, but as far as helping your joints, it's not if you're running test with it. Making them feel better doesn't mean it's doing them any good.

 

[a creed]

It may have a pain relieving and an anti-inflammatory effect, but as far as helping your joints, it's not if you're running test with it. Making them feel better doesn't mean it's doing them any good.

There HAS to be an increase in fluid around the joints................

 

[krishna]

There HAS to be an increase in fluid around the joints................

Progestins have pain relieving effects. I have not seen any evidence that it increases synovial fluid.

 

[jagerbombme]

hmm, ive heard everywhere it lubes up the joints, and i've read from dudes on here they had aches and pains and then they dissappeared and never came back.

 

[abomb]

You should be using NPP if you like Deca and are concerned about detection time. Actually NPP is the only nandrolone I would ever use.

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

yeah go for npp...that shit is out relativly fast i believe

 

[a creed]

You should be using NPP if you like Deca and are concerned about detection time. Actually NPP is the only nandrolone I would ever use.

So it's out of the system as fast as test.

 

[krishna]

hmm, ive heard everywhere it lubes up the joints, and i've read from dudes on here they had aches and pains and then they dissappeared and never came back.

Ya, I'm sure you have heard that. It's a pretty common rumor in the body building world. Get Ulter and Macro in here. I'm sure they can shed more light on the subject. I was under the impression that proviron binds to aromatase, but apparently it doesn't.

 

[fatbg]

I don't think NPP will resolve your issue. The ester with nandrolones is not as important as the metabolites (for drug testing purposes). I think nandro metabolites can be detected for up to 12 or 18 months after use. This is my understanding, however and it may be wrong.

 

[a creed]

I don't think NPP will resolve your issue. The ester with nandrolones is not as important as the metabolites (for drug testing purposes). I think nandro metabolites can be detected for up to 12 or 18 months after use. This is my understanding, however and it may be wrong.

bump for more info...........

 

[macrophage69alpha]

there are a number of legal progestin derived drugs (being sold a supplements) that could explain away a positive test.

NPP will probably reduce the chances of testing positive (for several reasons). Long ester steroids are more likely to "get stuck" (in adipose tissue and/or extracellular space) resulting in release of trivial amounts of steroid over time, this is why metabolites are present long after. Tesing after heavy exercise is more likely to generate a positive test(fatty acid utilization). Generally after 6-7 half lives you wont test "positive" (even the IOC allows 2ng/ml). Now the IOC uses a much more sensitive and test(s) than DOJ and local law enforcement.

 

[a creed]

Generally after 6-7 half lives you wont test "positive" (even the IOC allows 2ng/ml).

THANKS Mac............

Could you please explain what 6-7 1/2 lives are?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

half life of decoanate ester is 9-11 days. so somewhere between 54 to 77 days. both the volume of oil and the volume of injection can affect this, as well as the site of injection. The greater the oil to steroid and greater the volume = typically extended metabolism. Site can affect levels esterases present, which can slow or accelerate cleavage.

site and bodyfat will also have effects on the "getting stuck" factor- though this area is not all that well explored.


as an interesting side note- did you know that humans and other animals make their own esterified steroids and store them in fat for when they are needed?

one wonders whether this may also happen with exogenous hormones like nandrolone... it certainly seems like a possibility...

 

[a creed]

as an interesting side note- did you know that humans and other animals make their own esterified steroids and store them in fat for when they are needed?

one wonders whether this may also happen with exogenous hormones like nandrolone... it certainly seems like a possibility...

That's "extremely" interesting................

I've always heard that weed can be detected for longer periods of time in individuals with higher than normal levels of fat.

Hey - does that mean if you are burning fat, and the fat cells are releasing their contents into the blood stream, then would they also release this "stored" esterfied steroid?

 

[LVTitan]

I am running deca @ 200mg/week and it's really helping my joints - they haven't felt this good in YEARS.

However; I can't stop thinking about Deca taking a year to leave the system, and seeing as I just entered into L.E. - I will always have to worry about AAS testing.

Am I overanylizing this?
Does anyone here avoid deca simply for the detection time?

tested athletes do, cops dont. i know of plenty of jacked cops running around,

 

[gmobbcapone]

I have a close friend in LE and he opposed go on deca after blowing out his knee because if he got into some situation where he shot somebody on duty he would probably be tested for juice or other controlled substances. But testing is expensive and as we all know police departments are notoriously under funded. They're not the International doping agency they have a budget. Unless the officer was under indictment or serious suspicion of using AAS then your probably be fine. Yeah it stays in your systen technically for 1 yr so you may consider using a faster acting test for a shorter cycle to cut down the risk time. Could try test500-1000wk & dbol 15mg-25mg daily for 4-6 wks instead-(alot stronger than a deca only by the way)

 

[a creed]

I have a close friend in LE and he opposed go on deca after blowing out his knee because if he got into some situation where he shot somebody on duty he would probably be tested for juice or other controlled substances. But testing is expensive and as we all know police departments are notoriously under funded. They're not the International doping agency they have a budget. Unless the officer was under indictment or serious suspicion of using AAS then your probably be fine. Yeah it stays in your systen technically for 1 yr so you may consider using a faster acting test for a shorter cycle to cut down the risk time. Could try test500-1000wk & dbol 15mg-25mg daily for 4-6 wks instead-(alot stronger than a deca only by the way)

I'm taking deca w/test.........I would NEVER take Deca alone..................

 

[blut wump]

I found this interesting article regarding Deca and Joints:
http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/anthony-roberts/deca-durabolin-and-your-joints.htm

 

[krishna]

I found this interesting article regarding Deca and Joints:
http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/anthony-roberts/deca-durabolin-and-your-joints.htm

Basically what I was trying to say. Good post.