Deca Durabolin or Sustanon 250

[black_market]

I was curious about everyones personal results as far as better gains, least amount of side effects, and keeping gains on Deca or Sustanon. If you can, can you please post your dosage and what other steroids was used if you stacked. Just trying to make a decision. Thanks a lot guys.

 

[PhillyPA#1]

run both together. Sust - 100 mg eod and deca at 400 at week.

 

[goku_kakarot77]

I was curious about everyones personal results as far as better gains, least amount of side effects, and keeping gains on Deca or Sustanon. If you can, can you please post your dosage and what other steroids was used if you stacked. Just trying to make a decision. Thanks a lot guys.

if this your first cycle run like this

week 1-12 sustanon 500mgs split in to 2 shots or eod shots
week 1-10 deca 250-300 mgs


thats it , make sure you have proper pct lined up which doesn't involve the use of nolvadex,

get ready to blow up


peace

 

[khemix]

If this is your first cycle, do not run 500mg/wk of sust. You dont need that much.

Honestly, here my recommendation:

Sust, 250mg/wk, 1-10wks
Dbol, 25mg/ed, 1-4wks
Arimidex .5mg/twice a week, 1-10wks (this will help keep you from holding water)

Can you give us some info about your cycle history?

 

[mrplunkey]

First cycle I always like test at a lowish dose (i.e. 250 mg/week)

Second cycle, do 250 mg/week and deca at 450/week

You really want to know if you're going to have side effects from test only (gyno, shedding, etc. etc.). And the last thing you want to do is try to debug that while you have both test *and* deca in your system.

As far as keeping gains, for me test just makes me big then small. I really don't do well with test-only cycles. If it's deca or eq, then yeah, I keep the vast majority of it.

 

[khemix]

First cycle I always like test at a lowish dose (i.e. 250 mg/week)

Second cycle, do 250 mg/week and deca at 450/week

You really want to know if you're going to have side effects from test only (gyno, shedding, etc. etc.). And the last thing you want to do is try to debug that while you have both test *and* deca in your system.

As far as keeping gains, for me test just makes me big then small. I really don't do well with test-only cycles. If it's deca or eq, then yeah, I keep the vast majority of it.

Its a very good rule of thumb to never run your test lower than the deca. This avoids the dreaded deca dick (limp dick). Theres no muscle builder like test and I feel it should always be used as a base for the rest of a cycle.

Side effects from test are much more easily fought than sides from deca. Thats what the arimidex is for.

Chris

 

[mrplunkey]

Its a very good rule of thumb to never run your test lower than the deca. This avoids the dreaded deca dick (limp dick). Theres no muscle builder like test and I feel it should always be used as a base for the rest of a cycle.

Side effects from test are much more easily fought than sides from deca. Thats what the arimidex is for.

Chris

I've always heard that, but 250 test / 450 deca did the trick for me. No deca dick whatsoever.

And yes, test feels like a bigtime muscle builder to me too, but for some reason 60-90 days after my cycle I'm miles ahead when I've done 250 test / 450 dec or 250 test / 400 equipoise. It may be psychological, but test seems to be an "easy come, easy go" compound for me. Also though, I do feel better overall when I'm doing test-only.

 

[black_market]

If this is your first cycle, do not run 500mg/wk of sust. You dont need that much.

Honestly, here my recommendation:

Sust, 250mg/wk, 1-10wks
Dbol, 25mg/ed, 1-4wks
Arimidex .5mg/twice a week, 1-10wks (this will help keep you from holding water)

Can you give us some info about your cycle history?

Well as for my cycle history I wasn't smart enough and took someone elses advice that didn't know what he was talking about. 1st cycle over 2 years ago was dianabol 20mg a day 10mg at breakfast and 10mg at diner. Along with sustanon 250mg a week for only 5 weeks and no post cycle therapy. I stopped the cycle because I was in the military and worried about getting tested. second cycle was 50mg of anadrol and once again 250mg of sustanon but that cycle ended early because of a typhoid pill I was forced to take in the military and it really messed me up for a week!! This time i want to do it right but i don't know what would be a better product deca or sustanon. I went from 150lbs to 168lbs on the last cycle but lost it all and then some. I would like to do dbol 20mg a day and sustanon 250/wk but always wanted to try deca. Im out of the military now and have no concerns about testing and want to do this cycle right with PCT also. Thanks a lot for your help guys it really is very appreciated.

 

[khemix]

Your major faults are that you didn't run the cycles long enough and without PCT. No crazy doses, so nothing too stupid.

Then my suggestion is either of these:
Dbol, 25mg/ed, 1-5wks
Sust, 500mg/wk, 1-10wks
Arimidex .5mg/2x a wk, 1-12wks

OR

Sust, 500mg/wk, 1-12wks
Deca, 300mg/wk, 1-10wks
Arimidex .5mg/2x a wk, 1-12wks

This give the deca time to get out of your system so you're not shut down as hard. The arimidex helps keep you from bloating.

You can always throw the dbol in hte 2nd cycle, but thats up to you. I'm not a fan of it personally and the prop in the sust will help to aid as a kickstart.

Well as for my cycle history I wasn't smart enough and took someone elses advice that didn't know what he was talking about. 1st cycle over 2 years ago was dianabol 20mg a day 10mg at breakfast and 10mg at diner. Along with sustanon 250mg a week for only 5 weeks and no post cycle therapy. I stopped the cycle because I was in the military and worried about getting tested. second cycle was 50mg of anadrol and once again 250mg of sustanon but that cycle ended early because of a typhoid pill I was forced to take in the military and it really messed me up for a week!! This time i want to do it right but i don't know what would be a better product deca or sustanon. I went from 150lbs to 168lbs on the last cycle but lost it all and then some. I would like to do dbol 20mg a day and sustanon 250/wk but always wanted to try deca. Im out of the military now and have no concerns about testing and want to do this cycle right with PCT also. Thanks a lot for your help guys it really is very appreciated.

 

[black_market]

Your major faults are that you didn't run the cycles long enough and without PCT. No crazy doses, so nothing too stupid.

Then my suggestion is either of these:
Dbol, 25mg/ed, 1-5wks
Sust, 500mg/wk, 1-10wks
Arimidex .5mg/2x a wk, 1-12wks

OR

Sust, 500mg/wk, 1-12wks
Deca, 300mg/wk, 1-10wks
Arimidex .5mg/2x a wk, 1-12wks

This give the deca time to get out of your system so you're not shut down as hard. The arimidex helps keep you from bloating.

You can always throw the dbol in hte 2nd cycle, but thats up to you. I'm not a fan of it personally and the prop in the sust will help to aid as a kickstart.

Thanks a lot as for post cycle therapy this was what I found
Day 1 - Clomid 200mg + Nolvadex 40mg
Following 10 days - Clomid 50mg + Nolvadex 20mg
Following 10 days - Clomid 50mg or Nolvadex 20mg

I was told not to use HCG which is ok with me because a lot of the PCT websites I've found says to inject either 500IU - 1000IU daily for 3 weeks or 2000IU - 4000IU every 4 to 5 days which is very confusing when multiple websites say multiple things about this. One site said and I qoute "The rapid rise in both testosterone, and thus oestrogen due to aromatisation, from the administration of HCG causes further inhibition of the HPTA (Hypothalamic/Pituitary/Testicular Axis); this actually worsens the recovery situation. HCG does not restore the natural testosterone production." So therefore I am thinking about just taking the Nolvadex and Clomid at the end of the cycle for PCT.