Deca and gyno

[Güclü_oglan]

No deca dick either, then?

didn't understand that one bro

 

[ruggermu]

there is no such thing as prolactin and progesterone gyno

testosterone compounds can very often be found in fake deca

No progest caused gyno? Do you have anything to back this up. I've never had progest gyno and I have no real proof it's real but that seems to be the common belief. So put us up some evidence. Not calling you out just interested.

 

[Güclü_oglan]

No progest caused gyno? Do you have anything to back this up. I've never had progest gyno and I have no real proof it's real but that seems to be the common belief. So put us up some evidence. Not calling you out just interested.

i'll dig in my archive later where they tried but couldn't develope enlargement of the glands without estrogen present in rats and pigs

but it's hard to prove that an old myth is not true since the theory is taken out of the air and people are spreading it, i've looked alot for it but i'm empty handed on evidences that backs up that gynocomastia can occur with no estradiol present

 

[blut wump]

It is accepted that oestrogen needs also to be present for progesterone-induced gyno. A-dex would be better than Nolva, however, since Nolva only binds to the oestrogen receptors rather than reducing oestrogen. Proviron is another alternative for the same reason: aromatase inhibiter to reduce the oestrogen. The body does apparently have pathways to produce oestrogen from deca and, in some, this is sufficient to trigger the gyno.

I have to accept the possibility that the sites I read when I was researching all came from a single, bogus source. Such is the way of the Internet.

 

[blut wump]

Here's a page on the topic:
http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/oestrogen-progesterone.asp

 

[toyosuprarz]

as long as you don't skip the nolva

so i would need nolva as well?

 

[toyosuprarz]

i have been doing some research, and i think i should take nolva during my cycle until the last day then start clomid for 3 weeks. does this sound good.? or should i start the clomid the weeks of the last shot?

 

[Güclü_oglan]

i have been doing some research, and i think i should take nolva during my cycle until the last day then start clomid for 3 weeks. does this sound good.? or should i start the clomid the weeks of the last shot?

clomid works great against gyno, but nolvadex has been proven to be superior when treating gyno

 

[bigrand]

Sorry but deca is a progestin and yes, you can get gyno from it, not estro produced gyno.

 

[Güclü_oglan]

It is accepted that oestrogen needs also to be present for progesterone-induced gyno. A-dex would be better than Nolva, however, since Nolva only binds to the oestrogen receptors rather than reducing oestrogen. Proviron is another alternative for the same reason: aromatase inhibiter to reduce the oestrogen. The body does apparently have pathways to produce oestrogen from deca and, in some, this is sufficient to trigger the gyno.

I have to accept the possibility that the sites I read when I was researching all came from a single, bogus source. Such is the way of the Internet.

but still there is no such thing as progesterone-induced gyno, there has been alot of testing in that subject but they have ALL come to the same conclusion

Arimidex would NEVER be better then nolvadex, nolvadex will attach to your receptors at the gland site and keep it from recieving more estradiol, besides arimidex doesn't really "reduce" the ammounts of estrogen in your body, it just keeps the aromasin in check. Arimidex doesn't "inhibit" the aromatizing with more then 50% so it's more or less useless for this matter... also you cannot go much higher then around 50% reduction of the aromasin with the a-dex, because it has been proven that there is barely any difference between 1mg ed and 0.5 mg ed