mattdan
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I’ve been reading a lot of half truths and myths on this board for some time. What generally happens is someone reads some bad info on a board, takes it as truth, and spreads it around. Kinda like the urban legends we’re all so familiar with.
I don’t claim to be “the expert” but I have more experience than almost everyone on this board. I doubt many on this board have ever done a physician supervised cycle as a pro athelete, and very few have over 23 years of experience studying and using this stuff. That DOES NOT make me perfect. About the only changes over the last 23 years is improvement of P.CT and the explosion of UGL’s. Otherwise, same compounds, same doses, same training, etc.
Myth 1. Oral only cycles are a waste of time.
Well those of us that have ACTUALLY DONE oral only cycles successfully would love to know where this load came from. No one saying that has actually ever done one, I can assure you that. Protein synthesis is the same weather it came from deca or d.bol. The protein doesn’t know why it’s there. My very first cycle was d.bol only from an American pharmacy. My bench went up about 150 lbs, deadlifts and squats went up around 150 to 200 lbs each The only P.CT I took was some h.cg a friend gave me.
I am not saying oral only is the best way to do it. I am saying that it’s not the waste of time many here would have you believe.
Myth 2. You shouldn’t take gear if your BF is over 10%
Please tell that to the Strongman competitors, football players and power lifters. Apparently someone forgot to tell them that gear won’t work for them.
Myth 3. Which test is best?????
Look, I’m NOT saying all tests are identical, what I will say is the differences are NOT NEARLY what many will try and tell you on this board.
Here are the facts – An ester is a carbon and hydrogen based chain attached to the testosterone molecule at the 17th carbon position. ALL this ester does is reduce the water solubility of the molecule and make it unusable to the body until it is removed.. The body’s esterace cleaves off this ester leaving an intact molecule of test.
What everyone needs to understand is that once the ester is removed, the test molecule is IDENTICAL, regardless of what ester chain USED to be attached to it.
The primary difference is how often the body’s test level peaks and troughs. I think this is the main difference people see.
Myth 4. If you do dianabol at 20mg a day for 10 weeks you’ll need a new liver.
Tell that to the people that did a study using doses of 100mg a day for up to 8 weeks with no permanent change in liver function.
This is another case of internet knowledge vs actually reading studies and talking to PHD’s.
Even Bill Roberts recommends 8 to 10 week cycles at twice that dosage.
Myth 5. I’ll finish this later.
I don’t claim to be “the expert” but I have more experience than almost everyone on this board. I doubt many on this board have ever done a physician supervised cycle as a pro athelete, and very few have over 23 years of experience studying and using this stuff. That DOES NOT make me perfect. About the only changes over the last 23 years is improvement of P.CT and the explosion of UGL’s. Otherwise, same compounds, same doses, same training, etc.
Myth 1. Oral only cycles are a waste of time.
Well those of us that have ACTUALLY DONE oral only cycles successfully would love to know where this load came from. No one saying that has actually ever done one, I can assure you that. Protein synthesis is the same weather it came from deca or d.bol. The protein doesn’t know why it’s there. My very first cycle was d.bol only from an American pharmacy. My bench went up about 150 lbs, deadlifts and squats went up around 150 to 200 lbs each The only P.CT I took was some h.cg a friend gave me.
I am not saying oral only is the best way to do it. I am saying that it’s not the waste of time many here would have you believe.
Myth 2. You shouldn’t take gear if your BF is over 10%
Please tell that to the Strongman competitors, football players and power lifters. Apparently someone forgot to tell them that gear won’t work for them.
Myth 3. Which test is best?????
Look, I’m NOT saying all tests are identical, what I will say is the differences are NOT NEARLY what many will try and tell you on this board.
Here are the facts – An ester is a carbon and hydrogen based chain attached to the testosterone molecule at the 17th carbon position. ALL this ester does is reduce the water solubility of the molecule and make it unusable to the body until it is removed.. The body’s esterace cleaves off this ester leaving an intact molecule of test.
What everyone needs to understand is that once the ester is removed, the test molecule is IDENTICAL, regardless of what ester chain USED to be attached to it.
The primary difference is how often the body’s test level peaks and troughs. I think this is the main difference people see.
Myth 4. If you do dianabol at 20mg a day for 10 weeks you’ll need a new liver.
Tell that to the people that did a study using doses of 100mg a day for up to 8 weeks with no permanent change in liver function.
This is another case of internet knowledge vs actually reading studies and talking to PHD’s.
Even Bill Roberts recommends 8 to 10 week cycles at twice that dosage.
Myth 5. I’ll finish this later.

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